Re: [avr-chat] AVR IDE [WAS: UISP / AVRDude : what to choose ?]

[E. Weddington]

David Brown wrote:

> As for your work so far, Eric, I look forward to trying it.  It certainly
> sounds like you are putting together a package that will suit a wide range
> of users.  
I certainly hope so. That's the intent anyway, for all the reasons you 
mentioned. I want to provide something for the beginner, intermediate, 
and advanced users.


> There are a few things that I hope you have included in the new
> IDE.  To start with, I hope you are using a third-party editor component
> such as Scintilla - there is no point in re-inventing the wheel here.  
I hate reinventing the wheel, it's stupid to do so. I will say that it 
is not based on Scintilla.

> I
> hope you've included a solid debugger (using gdb underneath) - especially if
> it has templates for different devices, so that you can easily show input
> and output pins and registers.  
This is probably the hardest part. Debugging in the AVR world has been 
difficult. There has not been a perfect solution yet. And I won't claim 
that this will be fixed anytime soon.

> I hope it is not too avr-specific - the
> msp430-gcc project could benifit from such an IDE too.  
Hmm. Well, this won't certainly bar the msp430 folks from doing 
something like it, but I'm restricing myself solely to the AVR. The 
msp430 folks will have to work on it on their own.

> And I hope is it
> fairly fast and light-weight - maybe written in Python rather than a monster
> heavyweight Java system like Eclipse.  (Of course, you may have simply made
> Eclipse plugins - trading the resource requirements of Eclipse for the
> development benifits of using Eclipse as a starting point.)
Well, there are tradeoffs to be had, aren't there? ;-)

As always, I appreciate your thoughtful responses, David. Thanks.

Eric