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Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: proposal to create the Axiom Foundation (was:
Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: proposal to create the Axiom Foundation (was: bounties etc.)
Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:25:39 +0100
Bob McElrath writes:
> I have just sent out my $100 via paypal.
> Sorry I have been out for surgery for a while, still catching up on email...
I hope that everything went well! All the best!
> I ask that it be used for a new mathematical domain, extension, or
> algorithm. (As opposed to an interface, compiling, or integration issue, of
> which there seem to be many...)
Since you are one of the decision-makers, you can ensure this yourself :-)
> I will look over the wishlist and see if > anything catches my eye.
> Can someone summarize the funds collected so far and the bounties out?
> We have proposals on::
> but no concrete promise of bounties for anything specific.
No, since there has not been any agreement, neither on the bounties themselves,
nor on the pricing.
> Also let me add my voice that I think the bounties so far are too small, or
> the goals not big enough. It has been noted that $100 is a nice award in
> poorer countries. In US monetary terms I think our goal should be $500
> minimum, which is roughly one to two weeks of a grad student's time. I
> think efforts smaller than this will not benefit from bounties. But
> then...I'd like to be proven wrong on that... And of course we are funds
> limited for now.
There are several issues:
* we don't have too much money to spend, thus I regard the bounties rather as
a way to say thank you. If you happen to live in a country where 100$ are a
fortune, even better. (In fact, I think we should specifically target such
countries. Mathematica and Maple cost a fortune, I don't know about Mupad.)
* I dare say that it will be very difficult to make conditions precise, under
which some submitted work is "good enough". Therefore I argue that "good
enough" means, that the "heavy lifting" is done, i.e., the code works. This
is another reason to set the prices at a not too high value. I think we
should allow ourselves to negotiate here: if some submitter says: "Here's the
code, it works. If you want some really good documentation, I'll ask for
another 100 bucks.", I think this will work better than insisting on
documentation right away. Furthermore, I think that maths will be even more
difficult to judge than some integration work.
> Also, has it been decided who are the foundation members? Am I one?
I think so, yes.