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Re: [Axiom-developer] Maintainers
From: |
Waldek Hebisch |
Subject: |
Re: [Axiom-developer] Maintainers |
Date: |
Sat, 4 Nov 2006 16:49:36 +0100 (CET) |
root wrote:
> > > Based on your extensive work would you consider being the
> > > person who maintains axiom--silver--1? That would settle
> > > one of the items raised by Gaby.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, however some clarificatinons are needed:
> >
> > 1) ATM I work with SVN on SourceForge and I hope to avoid contact
> > with arch
>
> Arch holds the master sources, which get mirrored everywhere, into
> CVS on sourceforge and savannah, as well as SVN on sourceforge and
> google. If you're not willing to do this because of arch then that's
> fine. I just thought that you were showing great initiative and might
> find it worthwhile to try. Handling multiple SCMs would be the least
> problem (currently axiom lives in arch, cvs, svn, and darcs).
>
> The hard part is trying to figure out how to agree to things
> that you disagree with because other people have perfectly
> rational opinions. Working with arch is trivial. Working with
> people is hard. And among them I'm probably one of the most painful.
>
Arch in itself is not big problem. But I belive that development
will take place in SVN and I prefer to be there. Also, I misunderstood
your message: my first impression was that you argeed with Gaby
critique and wanted to implement one of his proposals.
> > 2) "one of persons who maintain ..." -- IIUC Gaby wants to avoid
> > single point of failure (me too).
>
> How you maintain axiom--silver--1 would be up to you. Be aware
> that about 22 people have write access to silver at the moment.
>
> I don't think "single point of failure" is a rational notion
> in terms of SCM. You or I could simply stop patching the code
> and the world would hardly notice since many people have write
> access.
>
Maybe "single person bottleneck" is better term. If key person
on a project say "I stop working on a project", this is bad but
the project has good chance to survive. If key person is slow
responding ("I will do that next week", "Sorry, I forgot aboy this")
at first the effects look harmless, but this can easily kill
the project.
> It's a hard job and one that will put you in a position
> of contention with people at times.
>
> Think carefully about it and let me know.
>
Tim, I have some experience managing software relases and have
my views what high quality means and how to attain it. And
frankly, my views differ from current Axiom practice. I thought
that your proposal is part of establishing new practice
-- I see now that I again misundrestood you.
--
Waldek Hebisch
address@hidden
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Maintainers, (continued)
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Maintainers, root, 2006/11/04
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Maintainers, Gabriel Dos Reis, 2006/11/04
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Maintainers, root, 2006/11/04
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Maintainers, Gabriel Dos Reis, 2006/11/04
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Maintainers, root, 2006/11/04
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Maintainers, Gabriel Dos Reis, 2006/11/04
- Re: [Axiom-developer] Maintainers,
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