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Re: Please accept M-p as well as C-p


From: Linda Walsh
Subject: Re: Please accept M-p as well as C-p
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 16:25:11 -0800
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Maybe not as convenient, but there's always (vi-mode)
[fF]^j[lj]

If it gets to be that jumping between lines is important I
usually invoke the editor.

If you are going to get into making a mini-editor that allows jumping
between lines moving completion to something like Meta-tab or ctrl-tab
would be more useful.


Chet Ramey wrote:
On 2/13/14, 12:03 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote:
Chet Ramey <address@hidden> writes:

On 2/13/14 11:29 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote:

AIUI there is no readline command the moves
vertically within the commandline (in readline a line always includes
any embedded newlines).
That's true.  How should such a command work?  Move point forward and
backward by a multiple of the screenwidth?
It should work like previous-line/next-line in Emacs: move over the
previous/next newline and then forward to the same column as before.

That's kind of a problem.  The editing and display engines in readline
are more or less separate, and that has consequences on implementation.

The editing engine sees the world as a character array of potentially
infinite length.  Text adds and deletes, and moving the location of
point, all happen within this buffer.  There are very few cases where
a line has embedded newlines, so your previous message about a command
to move between lines with embedded newlines would be relatively easy
to do but of limited usefulness.

The display engine takes this array of characters and handles all aspects
of screen presentation: displaying the prompt, handling invisible and
multibyte characters, and wrapping the line according to the current screen
dimensions.

The reason I mention this is that the much more frequently-encountered case
is the one where a long line is wrapped at the screen width.  How should a
command that moves vertically between lines behave in such a situation?  It
looks to me like emacs, which handles line wrapping itself in shell mode,
treats C-p and C-n very similarly to C-a and C-e.

If you want this hypothetical future command to move vertically between
lines that are wrapped at the screen width, which I believe is going to
be the much more useful case, then we should talk about how you specify
and implement that.

Chet



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