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Re: [Bug-gne]Right/Wrong if editorship in GNE/Nupedia


From: Tom Chance
Subject: Re: [Bug-gne]Right/Wrong if editorship in GNE/Nupedia
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:01:02 -0800 (PST)

I think we should still allow anything, as a stand for
freedom of speech, but put on a disclaimer on certain
articles warning of possibly offensive content. We
wouldn't take off something anti-tianmen square just
because the chinese govnment would hate it, so why
take off pro-paedophilia articles just because we
disagree?

Tom Chance


--- Hook <address@hidden> wrote: > Tom
Chance wrote:
> > > Can it be possible to filter out personal
> homepages
> > > linked in by anyone
> > > without editorial?
> >
> > No. Even if you put in some automated script, it
> > couldn't be done because they never work 100%.
> Even if
> > we allow no external links, people will write
> > something like "see my page at (three
> w's).mypage.com"
> > and so could get around it. That is why we need a
> > moderation system of sorts.
> >
> > > Or worse: What about articles
> > > that will be set on GNE
> > > which are strictly demanding that there must be
> a
> > > proprietary copyright on
> > > any product on this earth? would this not
> contradict
> > > the gfdl just within
> > > it's own reach?
> >
> > If it was what their article was about, fine. If
> they
> > demanded those rights over the article, they can
> go
> > elsewhere.
> >
> > > What about pages that state how
> > > "useful" it is to kill
> > > other people, say everybody not beeing white, or
> > > anything. I'm convinced
> > > their are quite a lot of folks out there who
> would
> > > try to misuse GNE for
> > > their propagnada.
> >
> > Then we allow it. Their ideas are our propoganda.
> To a
> > Nazi, if I posted an article about how good the
> > liberation of Black Americans was, they would see
> it
> > as propoganda. We can't discriminate against
> minority
> > views, no matter how extreme or distasteful. We're
> not
> > another Wal-Mart or Blockbusters.
> 
> I can see the appeal of idealism here, but there's a
> practical difficulty as
> well. How would you (and most other people I
> suspect) feel about an article
> which promoted the enjoyment and advantages of
> pedophilia?  It's fine to say
> "it's their opinion and we can't refuse to publish
> it", but in many
> countries material of that nature is illegal, and
> it's a horribly emotive
> issue with the public almost everywhere .. and it's
> not difficult to see
> why.
> 
> I honestly can't see GNE surviving many run-ins with
> the law over material
> such as that. If it isn't hosted in a country which
> forbids it, the
> association would do the project immeasurable
> damage. Anyone who hasn't been
> living in a cave has come across politicians
> clamouring to have the net
> tamed because of the three horsemen of the
> latter-day apocalypse : "drug
> dealers, terrorists and pedophiles".
> 
> Idealism or not, GNE has to be clearly and
> publically aware of the dangers
> of "publish and be damned".
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
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