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Re: address@hidden: Failure to show "German Umlaute"]


From: Reiner Steib
Subject: Re: address@hidden: Failure to show "German Umlaute"]
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:44:40 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux)

On Fri, Nov 16 2007, Richard Stallman wrote:

> Can someone please DTRT, then ack?

This is a display problem on Windows.  It's not specific to Gnus.
I.e. in the following file (or the attachment example_Umlaut.txt in
the original report) the display problem occurs as well:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
First line in <http://www.hobbyecke-pc.de/images/screensh1.png>:

  Zuletzt geöffnete Dateien

First non-quoted line in <http://www.hobbyecke-pc.de/images/screensh2.png>:

  wä wö mä mö

--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The output of `describe-char' from the original message might allow
developers (on Windows) to reproduce the problem. 

> ------- Start of forwarded message -------
> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY 
>       autolearn=failed version=3.1.0
> To: address@hidden
> From: Joachim Reiter <address@hidden>
> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:41:50 +0100
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-="
> Subject: Failure to show "German Umlaute"

Richard, including the Message-ID header in the forwarded message
would make it easier to find the original message.  (X-Spam-Status
isn't useful, IMHO.)

> - --=-=-=
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers
> usually do not have translators to read other languages for them.
>
> Your bug report will be posted to the address@hidden mailing list,
> and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group.
>
> Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
> and the precise symptoms of the bug:
>
> 1. Starting Emacs
> 2. 'M-x Gnus' to start Gnus
> 3. I.E. I would to read de.comp.editoren I press <SPACE>, if the Cursor
> is in Group-Summary over this Group
> 4. At first, I see the failure in Subject, so it has 'German Umlaut',
> later in Article-Summary too
>
> The failure only is shown, so a 'German Umlaut' is together used with
> 'm=F6' also 'w=F6', for this Example by the 'm' also the 'w' the right edge
> of the Letters (m + w) shown 'cutted' - If I click one of the Letters
> with Mouse, so the Cursor is on it, the look is OK, if I click another
> one, the failure will return.
>
> So it looks like, the 'German Umlaut' over-paint the 'm' or the 'w' by
> edge.
>
> I attached a Test-Case and the result of 'M-x describe-char RET' by
> using the 'm' with '=F6', 'm' with 'o', 'w' with '=F6', 'w' with 'o' the '=
> =F6'
> and the 'o'.
> Also I send a Text-file with a small Text including the Letters making
> the failure also them without failure.
>
> For looking, how its shown by me, look at followed Links so you can see
> this too...
>
> www.hobbyecke-pc.de/images/screensh1.png
> www.hobbyecke-pc.de/images/screensh2.png
>
> If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
> please include the output from the following gdb commands:
>     `bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
> If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file
> g:/Emacs-22.1/etc/DEBUG for instructions.
>
> In GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
>  of 2007-06-02 on RELEASE
> Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
> configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --cflags -Ic:/gnuwin32/include'
>
> Important settings:
>   value of $LC_ALL: nil
>   value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
>   value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
>   value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
>   value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
>   value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
>   value of $LC_TIME: nil
>   value of $LANG: DEU
>   locale-coding-system: cp1252
>   default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
>
> Major mode: Group
>
> Minor modes in effect:
>   gnus-topic-mode: t
>   gnus-undo-mode: t
>   recentf-mode: t
>   encoded-kbd-mode: t
>   tooltip-mode: t
>   tool-bar-mode: t
>   mouse-wheel-mode: t
>   menu-bar-mode: t
>   file-name-shadow-mode: t
>   global-font-lock-mode: t
>   font-lock-mode: t
>   blink-cursor-mode: t
>   unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
>   utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
>   auto-compression-mode: t
>   line-number-mode: t
>   transient-mark-mode: t
>
> Recent input:
> <help-echo> M-x g n u s <return> <help-echo> <help-echo>=20
> y M-x r e p o r t - e m <tab> <return>
>
> Recent messages:
> Loading gnus-cache...done
> Loading gnus-sum...done
> Loading timezone...done
> No new newsgroups
> Checking new news...
> Opening nndoc server on gnus-help...done
> Opening nnml server...done
> Checking new news...done
> Loading gnus-topic...done
> Loading emacsbug...done
>
> With friendly Greetings and TIA
> Joachim Reiter
>
> - --=-=-=
> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=Test-Case.txt
>
> ("G:\\Emacs-22.1\\bin\\emacs.exe" "-Q")
> Loading encoded-kb...done
> For information about the GNU Project and its goals, type C-h C-p.
> Loading gnus...done
> Loading gnus-start...
> Loading easymenu...done
> Loading gnus-start...done
> Loading gnus-agent...
> Loading regexp-opt...done
> Loading gnus-agent...done
>
> nntp (news) open error: ''.  Continue? (y or n) 
> Reading g:/Emacs-Home/.newsrc.eld...
> Opening nntp server on news...
> Denied server
> Opening nntp server on news...failed
> - --=-=-=
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=example_Umlaut.txt
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Wom=F6glich unm=F6glich, gew=F6hnlich m=F6glich.
> M=F6gen ist Morgen womit m=F6glichst nicht Heute m=F6glich ist.
>
> - --=-=-=
> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=a.txt
>
>   character: a (97, #o141, #x61, U+0061)
>     charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
>  code point: #x61
>      syntax: w        which means: word
>    category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l:Latin
> buffer code: #x61
>   file code: #x61 (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix)
>     display: by this font (glyph code)
>      -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1 
> (#x61)
>
> - --=-=-=
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=ae.txt
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
>   character: =E4 (2276, #o4344, #x8e4, U+00E4)
>     charset: latin-iso8859-1 (Right-Hand Part of Latin Alphabet 1 (ISO/IEC =
> 8859-1): ISO-IR-100.)
>  code point: #x64
>      syntax: w        which means: word
>    category: l:Latin
> buffer code: #x81 #xE4
>   file code: #xE4 (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix)
>     display: by this font (glyph code)
>      -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1 =
> (#xE4)
>
> - --=-=-=
> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=o.txt
>
>   character: o (111, #o157, #x6f, U+006F)
>     charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
>  code point: #x6F
>      syntax: w        which means: word
>    category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l:Latin
> buffer code: #x6F
>   file code: #x6F (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix)
>     display: by this font (glyph code)
>      -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1 
> (#x6F)
>
> - --=-=-=
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=oe.txt
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
>   character: =F6 (2294, #o4366, #x8f6, U+00F6)
>     charset: latin-iso8859-1 (Right-Hand Part of Latin Alphabet 1 (ISO/IEC =
> 8859-1): ISO-IR-100.)
>  code point: #x76
>      syntax: w        which means: word
>    category: l:Latin
> buffer code: #x81 #xF6
>   file code: #xF6 (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix)
>     display: by this font (glyph code)
>      -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1 =
> (#xF6)
>
> - --=-=-=
> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=m.txt
>
>   character: m (109, #o155, #x6d, U+006D)
>     charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
>  code point: #x6D
>      syntax: w        which means: word
>    category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l:Latin
> buffer code: #x6D
>   file code: #x6D (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix)
>     display: by this font (glyph code)
>      -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1 
> (#x6D)
>
> - --=-=-=
> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=m_without_Umlaut.txt
>
>   character: m (109, #o155, #x6d, U+006D)
>     charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
>  code point: #x6D
>      syntax: w        which means: word
>    category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l:Latin
> buffer code: #x6D
>   file code: #x6D (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix)
>     display: by this font (glyph code)
>      -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1 
> (#x6D)
>
> - --=-=-=
> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=w.txt
>
>   character: w (119, #o167, #x77, U+0077)
>     charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
>  code point: #x77
>      syntax: w        which means: word
>    category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l:Latin
> buffer code: #x77
>   file code: #x77 (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix)
>     display: by this font (glyph code)
>      -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1 
> (#x77)
>
> - --=-=-=
> Content-Disposition: inline; filename=w_whitout_Umlaut.txt
>
>   character: w (119, #o167, #x77, U+0077)
>     charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
>  code point: #x77
>      syntax: w        which means: word
>    category: a:ASCII graphic characters 32-126 (ISO646 IRV:1983[4/0]) l:Latin
> buffer code: #x77
>   file code: #x77 (encoded by coding system windows-1252-unix)
>     display: by this font (glyph code)
>      -outline-Courier New-normal-r-normal-normal-13-97-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1 
> (#x77)
>
> - --=-=-=--
> ------- End of forwarded message -------

Bye, Reiner.
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