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bug#1993: 23.0.60; Emacs.app has only transparent window background
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David Reitter |
Subject: |
bug#1993: 23.0.60; Emacs.app has only transparent window background |
Date: |
Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:00:45 -0400 |
On 4 Apr 2009, at 02:26, Adrian Robert wrote:
So my feeling is that the command=meta option is preferred by text-
writing Continentals, while command = command is likely preferred by
everyone else. I am not sure which group makes up a larger subset
of OS X emacs users.
Well, a pretty stable 50% of all Aquamacs users are US based.
I do know that I received a few complaints over the years from folks
disliking the Emacs.app command=command default. My answer was
always to rehash the above and note that it's easy to change it --
just flip a combo box in the prefs panel. Now that it's not so easy
(I guess figuring out the existence of ns/mac-command-modifier
variable and writing suitable elisp to .emacs is necessary), the
default setting becomes more important.
That's right. Similarly, I have received plenty of complaints about
Option=Meta, especially in the early days of Aquamacs.
Could be done, but I think we should stick to one default for all
layouts.
Then the system's one. No artificial changes.
I agree with both of these. So perhaps the best default would be
command=command (super), alt=none, and the user can set a meta key
(additional to esc+) if he/she desires.
Well, that would be another alternative - maybe a good one. It's my
second-preferred variant.
The reason why I support Command=Meta for Emacs 23 is experience from
working with Aquamacs and Carbon Emacs users. It seems to me that
there is a division between Emacs traditionalists, who would like an
Emacs with maximum compatibility across platforms. These people don't
need/want Mac keybindings. On the other end, you find people with the
need for cross-application integration. Unsurprisingly, that's the
typical Aquamacs user, while the traditionalists compile Emacs from
scratch or use a distribution like Carbon Emacs Package.
Due to this polarization, I think that it is sensible to Emacs Emacs-
compatible. Because otherwise, I'm not sure who's going to fill the
void.
(That said, Meta=Esc is a perfectly acceptable default setting, too.
Just not my #1 choice.)