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bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version |
Date: |
Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:16:10 +0300 |
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:51:20 +0200
> From: Sebastian Wiesner <lunaryorn@gmail.com>
> Cc: 14704@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> 2013/6/24 Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>:
> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Sebastian Wiesner <lunaryorn@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> This is the 3rd critical package.el bug I discovered within just a week
> >> or so. Don't you test your code?!
> >
> > If you want well-tested code, stay with Emacs official releases. If
> > you compile from trunk, expect breakages, untested code and potential
> > data loss. Caveat user.
>
> Who would test your code then before releases if not those who compile
> from trunk?
Each release is preceded by a long pretest period, when we are trying
to collect usage experiences from as many different platforms and
users as possible.
> You developers obviously don't… and what is worse, you apparently do
> even *care*.
I don't think this is a fair comment. A released version is more
stable than a development snapshot, that's a fact. It has nothing to
do with caring or not. It also doesn't only happen due to more
testing: during a pretest, only bugfixes are allowed into the code
base, so potentially destabilizing changes are avoided.
> I am sorry that you do not know about CI, unit testing and software
> quality, but I do, and thus I am horrified by the neglect and
> ignorance you demonstrate in developing one of the most important
> tools of my daily work.
While more testing is always a good thing, some areas in Emacs are
hard to test. Please consider coming on board and moving Emacs closer
to the CI ideals and testability. TIA.
- bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version, (continued)
- bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version, Michael Albinus, 2013/06/25
- bug#10304: bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/06/25
- bug#10304: display bug (was: bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version), Michael Albinus, 2013/06/25
- bug#10304: display bug (was: bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version), Eli Zaretskii, 2013/06/25
- bug#10304: display bug, Michael Albinus, 2013/06/25
- Message not available
- bug#10304: display bug, Michael Albinus, 2013/06/27
- bug#10304: display bug, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/06/27
- bug#10304: display bug, Michael Albinus, 2013/06/27
- bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version, Juanma Barranquero, 2013/06/24
- bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version, Stefan Monnier, 2013/06/24
- bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version, Sebastian Wiesner, 2013/06/24
bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version, Glenn Morris, 2013/06/24
bug#14704: 24.3.50; cl-lib breaks built-in Emacs version, Stefan Monnier, 2013/06/25