bug#14841: Frames created invisible have their visibility parameter set to t

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:58:47 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
> CC: 14841@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com
> 
>  >> -mm is only an approximation of maximizing since it doesn't hide the
>  >> window borders.
>  >
>  > It should do exactly what (fullscreen . maximized) frame parameter
>  > does, so I guess you are already used to the above issue?
> 
> For some reason, using -mm gives me a frame _with_ outer borders while
> adding (fullscreen . maximized) to `initial-frame-alist' gets me a frame
> _without_ outer borders.  What do you get?

I get the same effect with both, which is a frame _with_ outer
borders.  But this is XP, and I think I saw a frame without borders on
Windows 7.  Will check.

>  > Assuming the above is possible (having the window both hidden _and_
>  > maximized), patches are welcome.
> 
> On the Web you can find a quite remarkable number of proposals how to
> get an initially maximized frame (not only on Windows, IIUC).

Maximized _and_ hidden?  Any pointers?