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bug#19192: 25.0.50; TRAMP uses `dired-listing-switches' for ftp-connecti
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Rasmus |
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bug#19192: 25.0.50; TRAMP uses `dired-listing-switches' for ftp-connection |
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Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:16:43 +0100 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Hi,
Sorry for asking so many questions.
Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:
> Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
>>> A possible fix might be to give a user an option, whether global
>>> dired-listing-switches shall be used everywhere, or whether there shall
>>> be special settings connection-oriented.
>>
>> So it turns out that arguments are tested via `ange-ftp-switches-ok'.
>> So the easiest fix would probably be to extend this function to do a
>> better job of checking. Unfortunately, I don't know if one can easily
>> predict which ls commands will be understood and which not? E.g. does
>> ftp ls depend on the host systems version of ls?
>
> I don't know exactly. But I guess the most stable patch would be to not
> expect too much from ftp's ls.
So according to the note in `ange-ftp-get-files' there's the following
node on using dired-actual-switches or dired-listing-switches
;; This is an efficiency hack. We try to
;; anticipate what sort of listing dired
;; might want, and cache just such a listing.
Switches are checked with `ange-ftp-switches-ok'. (man "sftp") has a nice list
of
switches supported. Unfortunately, I don't really find anything on
supported ls in the manpage of ftp or the info manual...
Option I: I can limit accepted ls flags by ange-ftp to the subset
supported by sftp.
Option I+: I could add a defcustom to allow the current more liberal
behavior akin to ange-ftp-passive-host-alist and
ange-ftp-try-passive-mode.
Option II would be to add build-in support for something like the
--group-directories-first in dired, since now, if scrub off
--group-directories-first, a dired-ftp buffer will look different from a
local dired buffer...
For now I will go with Option I.
Thanks,
Rasmus
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