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use of locale in "ls" again (Re: Japanese expression of date)
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Tomohiro KUBOTA |
Subject: |
use of locale in "ls" again (Re: Japanese expression of date) |
Date: |
Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:41:38 +0900 |
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Wanderlust/2.8.0 (Something-pre) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (Unebigoryōmae) APEL/10.3 Emacs/20.7 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) MULE/4.1 (AOI) |
Hi,
I read most part of the original discussion starting from
http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/bug-gnu-utils/2001-December/008131.html
and I found there are a few points which are forgotten.
1. We should think separately
- whether German people accept ISO expression or not
and
- whether all people in the world accept ISO expression or not.
We can discuss here the former point but cannot the latter, because
people from all over the world are not here.
2. Whether to take 'localization' or 'standardization' in this case.
Standardization way is possible only when people all over the world
agree. We may discuss now on whether German people will accept
ISO date expression and we may or may not conclude that German will
do. However, it does not mean people all over the world will do.
Thus, in this case, 'localization' way should be taken.
3. How about 'dired'-like problem?
GNU Emacs (and other softwares) should be portable and it should
work well not only under GNU system but also under BSD, Solaris,
IRIX, AIX, and so on. Developers of GNU fileutils can control
the behaviour of GNU 'ls' but cannot control 'ls' for such other
systems. Thus, 'dired' must manage this problem regardless of
whether GNU 'ls' takes 'standardization' way (date expression is
ISO regardless of locale) or 'localization' way (date expression
is localized). Thus we have no reason to discuss on 'dired'
problem here.
Conclusion: 'localization' way is better. 'standardization' way
has no merits.
Of course it is German people's freedom to write ISO date expression
in de.po file. Since I am not a native German speaker, I don't and
shoudn't have any opinion on the concrete contents of de.po file.
---
Tomohiro KUBOTA <address@hidden>
http://www.debian.or.jp/~kubota/
"Introduction to I18N" http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/
use of locale in "ls" again (Re: Japanese expression of date),
Tomohiro KUBOTA <=
- Re: use of locale in "ls" again (Re: Japanese expression of date), Markus Kuhn, 2001/12/20
- Re: use of locale in "ls" again (Re: Japanese expression of date), Paul Eggert, 2001/12/20
- Re: revised use of column space in "ls", Markus Kuhn, 2001/12/20
- Re: revised use of column space in "ls", Miles Bader, 2001/12/20
- Re: revised use of column space in "ls", Paul Eggert, 2001/12/20
- Re: revised use of column space in "ls", Miles Bader, 2001/12/20
- Re: revised use of column space in "ls", Markus Kuhn, 2001/12/20
- Re: revised use of column space in "ls", Paul Eggert, 2001/12/21
Re: revised use of column space in "ls", Tomohiro KUBOTA, 2001/12/20
Re: use of locale in "ls" again (Re: Japanese expression of date), Miles Bader, 2001/12/20