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Re: [gettext] Translations under a language's main dialect are not found

From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Subject: Re: [gettext] Translations under a language's main dialect are not found if LANGUAGE contains only the language code
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 23:58:38 +0100
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On 2011-03-10 01:02, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
>> Bruno Haible wrote:
>>> Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
>>>> [ resending this with the gettext address instead of
>>>> address@hidden Don't know if it matters, considering that the
>>>> lists are archived together. ]
>>> Sure it matters. bug-gnu-gettext, bug-sed, bug-gawk, bug-diff have different
>>> subscribers, but the archive is shared.
>> To me it looks like the mailman list is shared as well, and that other
>> addresses but address@hidden are aliases. If it's possible to
>> subscribe to bug-gnu-gettext only, I'd appreciate a pointer to some
>> resource that explains how.
> I think that regardless of some of these being aliases to the same
> mailing list that whatever is documented should be the preferred
> address.  Right now some of those are aliases but that can change at
> any time.  (I don't recall at the moment but an alias was converted to
> a full mailing list just recently.)  It is harder to go wrong if you
> follow the documented procedure and addresses.  And if it does go
> wrong anyway then you can point to the documentation and blame it. :-)

Yes, it's always nice to have someone else to blame. :)

But seriously, I have a feeling that the docs isn't crystal clear in
this respect (either). If I recall it correctly, I did find the
bug-gnu-gettext address first, but when I was about to subscribe, I was
taken to the bug-gnu-utils list. My thought at that point was that there
might have been a gettext list previously, but not any longer...  Only
when I started to receive messages that were addressed to the
bug-gnu-gettext address, I realised that it was probably an alias.

> bug-gnu-utils is a real mailing list.  But bug-sed, bug-gawk,
> bug-diff, and bug-gnu-gettext are aliases to it.  You can't subscribe
> to them individually.  These are project aliases installed on
> fencepost.gnu.org.
> The aliases sometimes have additional recipients such as bug-gawk and
> bug-gnu-gettext that both go directly to their respective maintainers
> in addition to the mailing list.  So one critical difference is for
> the maintainers that are sometimes subscribed directly, and possibly
> only, through the alias and not the generic, combined, multiple use
> mailing list.  The alias might be the only way for the maintainer to
> see the message.  Bruno gets a direct copy of bug-gnu-gettext messages
> but not for bug-gnu-utils.  The same for Arnold who gets a direct copy
> of bug-gawk.  This is the reason it is important to always follow the
> preferred reporting address.
> That is also why you will sometimes see replies from the maintainers
> before the message to the mailing list has made it through
> lists.gnu.org.  When lists.gnu.org is behind handling email then they
> still get their copy and can look at the email and don't have to wait
> for the mailing lists to catch up.
> I hope that helps to clear things up.

Pretty much, yes. And I thank you for it, Bob.

Can't help feeling that one mailman list per address would make it much
easier to understand. And it would make it possible for everyone to
subscribe only to the list(s) of interest.


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