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Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??
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Timothy Y. Chow |
Subject: |
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat?? |
Date: |
Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:08:18 -0400 (EDT) |
"Roy A. Crabtree" <address@hidden> wrote:
> What I am denoting is that the NNP "learns" the attributes of the
> specific roll generator you use. And does it probably better than a
> human can.
This is interesting. The Mersenne Twister is linear, so in principle it
is "easy" to learn how to predict it. Whether a neural net will in fact
learn how to predict it depends on a lot of things, but it's entirely
believable.
In addition to the possibility of using physically random bits, one could
also try using a cryptographically secure random number generator.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographically_secure_pseudorandom_number_generator
It would be interesting to see if training the neural nets with different
random number generators produces noticeably different results.
Tim
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??, (continued)
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??, Roy A. Crabtree, 2009/08/20
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??, Michael Petch, 2009/08/20
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??, Michael Petch, 2009/08/21
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??, Michael Petch, 2009/08/21
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??, Roy A. Crabtree, 2009/08/21
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??, Roy A. Crabtree, 2009/08/21
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??, Joseph Heled, 2009/08/21
- Re : [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??, Massimiliano Maini, 2009/08/21
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??, Michael Petch, 2009/08/21
- Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??, Roy A. Crabtree, 2009/08/21
Re: [Bug-gnubg] Re: How fast can you cheat??,
Timothy Y. Chow <=