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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat


From: Mart Rootamm
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 09:00:07 +0300

The color emoji are too large.

When using Android, the color emoji are typically much bigger than the
rest of the text, which I have always thought to be a feature in order
to increase the visibility of any (color) emoji, and not a bug.

In computers that still have Windows xp, I've installed Symbola as the
go-to font for emoji. There, Firefox did not require about:config
tweaks, but the old SeaMonkey 1.1 did.

License change issue with Symbola and other fonts by George Douros.

Symbola and many other fonts are available at below link:
http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

But I've just discovered, that George Douros has changed the license
of the fonts between 29 January 2018, and 7 March 2018.

The Internet Archive snapshot on 29 January 2018 says:
"In lieu of a licence; fonts and documents in this site are free for any use;"
This includes Symbola 10.23 and many other fonts by Douros.
Source:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180129230141/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

The next snapshot from 7 March 2018 says this:
"Free use of the software on this site is strictly limited to
personal, non-commercial use;"
Involves Symbola 10.24 and many other fonts.
Source:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180307012615/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

It should be possible to narrow down the date span of the change with
other web archive services.

Word should be spread, that fonts by George Douros are no longer free
in the spirit of GNU.

-Mart.

2018-04-21 3:22 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich <address@hidden>:
> Hi Matt,
>
> As for the Noto Emoji font, everything's a-okay. They show up in the
> size of the surrounding text, and even though they're not coloured
> (because they're not coloured in the font, either), they work just as
> you'd expect emoji to work.
>
> When using the Noto Color Emoji font, however, it produces results as
> shown in the pictures attached. As you may notice, they are WAY
> oversized for the area they're supposed to be displayed in. The first
> attachment (emoji-regular.png) shows the emoji as they show up on
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Emoji_(Unicode_block). The
> second one (emoji-textarea.png) shows the emoji when used in a text
> area. The emoji was pasted in line 7 as last character on the line.
>
> As I said, though, I am pretty sure the oversized display is due to my
> installation of the font (or the font in general?) being corrupted or
> unusable, not a bug in IceCat.
>
> With regard to the replies: Yes, I am subscribed to the list, so
> there's no need to CC me :)
>
> --
> Felix Fröhlich
> GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
>
> On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 20:51 +0300, Mart Rootamm wrote:
>> Felix,
>> There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you
>> search
>> there just with 'font'.
>>
>> The about:config solution is one, though in some operating systems,
>> browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if they
>> rely
>> on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip to
>> about:config.
>>
>> wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji look
>> like for you with text?
>> For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a textarea
>> (editing an article).
>>
>> wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-gnuzilla,
>> and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
>> anyway, then I won't :cc you.
>>
>> -M.
>>
>> 2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich <address@hidden
>> >:
>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> > Hash: SHA512
>> >
>> > Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous reply I
>> > sent
>> > to Mart. Here you go:
>> >
>> >     Hi Mart,
>> >
>> >     Great! Thanks for the advice.
>> >
>> >     I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following about:config
>> >     settings:
>> >
>> >      * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
>> >      * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
>> >      * font.name.serif.x-unicode
>> >
>> >     Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big, though
>> > ^^
>> >
>> >     I'll play around with the font settings and see if I can manage
>> >     this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.
>> >
>> > - --
>> > Felix Fröhlich
>> > GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
>> >
>> > On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and
>> > > bug-
>> > > gnuz
>> > > address@hidden because for some reason I believed that was
>> > > the
>> > > correct email address... Please don't ask me why.
>> > >
>> > > Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji
>> > > (see
>> > > below).
>> > >
>> > > I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the Noto
>> > > Color
>> > > Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font
>> > > shows up
>> > > as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
>> > > attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to the
>> > > uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no big
>> > > deal,
>> > > really.
>> > >
>> > > Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks again for your help, Mart!
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
>> >
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>> >
>> > --
>> > http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
>> >
>>
>> --
>> http://gnuzilla.gnu.org



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