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Re: Re : upgrade


From: Thomas Schwinge
Subject: Re: Re : upgrade
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 12:49:53 +0200
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Hello!

On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 06:41:43PM +0530, address@hidden wrote:
> I had just been a week at IIIT, Hyderabad - http://iiit.ac.in. The
> faculty there has agreed to pool in research students and scholars there
> to assist in the development of Hurd.

That's very interesting to hear.  :-)

But first we should clarify a few issues.  Are you aware that the current
Hurd's implementation (and design) are currently not as actively pushed
forward as they were is in the past?

A number of people instead began to reconsider issues in the Hurd's
design (see the l4-hurd mailing list's archives for example,
<http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/l4-hurd>).  This includes both the
actual Hurd's design, as well as the underlying micro kernel.  A very
early, incomplete draft of this ``new Hurd'''s design is available at
<http://www.marcus-brinkmann.org/hurd-ng.pdf> and the beginning of
documenting some issues at
<http://hurd.gnufans.org/bin/view/Hurd/NextHurd>.  Unfortunately its main
pioneers, Marcus Brinkmann and Neal Walfield (and a number of other
people, mostly on the l4-hurd mailing list), can't -- at the moment --
dedicate as much time to this project as it would need.  So, there is
currently no possibility to directly contribute to this effort, as far as
I can see.

If you instead think it is feasible to invest time into the current Hurd
on Mach implementation, there are tons of loose ends where work would be
possible.


> It has been over 20 years of development. I have undertaken to do a
> qualitative study of the development during this period.
> Q2) Where can I find the valid archives ?

You mean like mailing list archives?  They're accessible from
<http://savannah.gnu.org/mail/?group=hurd> and
<http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/>.  Very old stuff, the archives of
the hurd-folks mailing list which is documenting parts of the Hurd's
genesis, are available at
<http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/gnu/hurd/hurd-talk.tar.gz>.

There is no written history, as far as I know.  Only bits here and there.


Regards,
 Thomas




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