Re: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?

[Trevor Daniels]

Jonathan Kulp wrote Friday, January 30, 2009 6:21 PM
> Graham Percival wrote:
> > Jonathan, this is your job now.  Please either update the docs, or
> > bug the relevant people for more info so that you can update the
> > docs.
>
> Ok Graham.  I've been trying for 20 minutes and can't figure how to use 
> PaperColumn to change spacing, though.  Joe, could you send me a snippet 
> that shows how to use this?

Me neither.  The only thing that seems to affect
note spacing is to override the X-extent of the Stem,
as suggested by Kieren.  (Other than messy tricks like
hidden text, slurs, etc. with modified lengths.)

> I did find what appears to be a typo at the end of NR 6.8 "Difficult 
> Tweaks":
>
> "Note, however, that \override, applied to NoteMusicalPaperColumn and 
> PaperColumn, still works as expected within \context blocks."
>
> Should this read "NonMusicalPaperColumn" instead of 
> "NoteMusicalPaperColumn"?  I don't see the latter in the list of all 
> graphical objects.  If this is the case then I'll make a patch to fix the 
> typo and send it to Carl.

I'm sure you're right.  Please fix this now, although much
of NR 6 is yet to be rewritten.

Trevor

> Jon
>
> > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 05:28:04PM -0000, Trevor Daniels wrote:
> > > Mats
> > >
> > > This was changed by committish
> > > 3d90d1d4096a6fae5826445cd66e95d25de2110a by
> > > Joe Neeman on 29 Jun 2007.  The commit message
> > > says:
> > >
> > > "use PaperColumns instead of SeparationItems".
> > >
> > > It was part of a massive set of changes to the
> > > spacing engine by Joe.
> > >
> > > As you say, it looks like a doc change is needed.
> > >
> > > Trevor
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mats Bengtsson" 
> > > <address@hidden>
> > > To: "Lilypond bug" <address@hidden>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:31 PM
> > > Subject: SeparationItem #'padding not working anymore?
> > >
> > >
> > > > What happened to the SeparationItem #'padding property? The following 
> > > > setting
> > > > used to give a large gap in version 2.10, but has no impact at all in 
> > > > 2.12.
> > > > Regression!?
> > > >
> > > > \relative c'{c d e \once \override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #30 
> > > > f }
> > > >
> > > > If there's a good reason that it doesn't work anymore, the 
> > > > corresponding
> > > > description in "Known issues and warnings" of 
> > > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Horizontal-spacing-overview#Horizontal-spacing-overview
> > > > should be corrected.
> > > >
> > > >    /Mats
>
>
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