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[bug #50754] Archive member rules and GNU ar's deterministic (-D) option

From: anonymous
Subject: [bug #50754] Archive member rules and GNU ar's deterministic (-D) option
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 14:46:43 -0400 (EDT)
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                 Summary: Archive member rules and GNU ar's deterministic (-D)
                 Project: make
            Submitted by: None
            Submitted on: Fri 07 Apr 2017 06:46:42 PM UTC
                Severity: 3 - Normal
              Item Group: Bug
                  Status: None
                 Privacy: Public
             Assigned to: None
             Open/Closed: Open
         Discussion Lock: Any
       Component Version: 4.1
        Operating System: POSIX-Based
           Fixed Release: None
           Triage Status: None



Linux distributions are beginning to enable the deterministic option when
using GNU's ar.  Among other things, that zeros the time field, breaking
archive member rules dependence management and generating warning messages
with the rules' default ar flags.

I'm not sure there *is* a user-transparent way to keep the succinct archive
member rules and deal with the new behavior.  Not deleting the generated
object files may be one, but half of (my) reason for sticking with archive
member rules is the resulting cleanliness.

It may be time to deprecate archive member rules.  *I* like them for small


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