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Re: [Bug-moe] keycodes are entered into buffer


From: Antonio Diaz Diaz
Subject: Re: [Bug-moe] keycodes are entered into buffer
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2016 18:37:55 +0200
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Hello Benno,

Benno Schulenberg wrote:
I've tried out moe.  (It required installing lzip in order to decompress
the tarball, which is inconvenient.  You might consider offering at least
also a gzipped tarball.)

Was it very inconvenient? No, really, I am interested in the answer. :-)

I'm trying to increase awareness of lzip because gzip is in the (slow) process of being replaced by some compressor using a variant of the LZMA "algorithm". The problem is that the other 3 formats (7z, lzma-alone and xz) have problems, defects or both.

So I would like to reach an optimal balance between inconvenience and awareness.


You say somewhere: "Forget learning curves. There is nothing to learn."
Well... that isn't true.  There are several things that one must first
find out before being able to do them.  For example, searching the next
occurrence backwards.  It requires typing ^H to find out that one has to
type ^O F to switch the direction.  Etcetera.

When you start moe, you can see at the right of the status line "F1 for help". ^H is just an alias for F1.


But now why I write.  One of the first things I tried in moe was:
Shift+Left in order to select a bit of text.  "Key code 393(0x189)
ignored".  Okay.  Same result for Shift+Right.  But when I type
Shift+Up or Shift+Down, the strings "1;2A" and "1;2B" are entered
into the buffer.  The same for any Ctrl+Arrow keystroke.  This is
unexpected and undesirable.

In what environment are you trying moe?

In my VGA text console, Shift+<arrow> and Ctrl+<arrow> both work just as <arrow> alone.

In a Konsole terminal emulator:
  Shift+Left and Shift+Right switch to previous/next console.
  Shift+Up and Shift+Down scroll through the terminal history.
  Ctrl+<arrow> works just as <arrow> alone.

What ncurses library are you using?


And then a question: how do I jump from word to word in moe?
(In many editors one can use Ctrl+Left/Right for that.)

Moe does not currently provide a command for this, but I'll investigate the possibility of adding it. Could you tell me some editors that do this, and describe the behavior (on what character of the word the cursor lands, for example). Thanks.

You can jump from word to word in moe by searching for '\W\<' forwards, or '\<' backwards, and then ^G to repeat.


Best regards,
Antonio.



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