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Re: Looking for TeX/LaTeX gurus help
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Patrice Dumas |
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Re: Looking for TeX/LaTeX gurus help |
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Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:07:09 +0100 |
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 01:16:43PM -0500, Karl Berry wrote:
>
> No, it doesn't. The way you get a text ringa accent in plain TeX is
> \def\ringaccent#1{{\accent23 #1}}. Something similar could be done for
> math, but it's not in plain.
Ok, I'll use the ascii representation when wanting to do plain TeX in
@math.
> \underline could be used, it is in TeX too.
>
> Ah. Math for @ubaraccent should be \underbar (which uses \underline).
Ok.
> > You'll want \usepackage{textcomp} for sure, it makes lots of symbols
> Ok. Are those in TeX too?
>
> For starters, there is no \usepackage in plain TeX, as you probably
> know.
Yes, I know. My question was, are things in textcomp also in plain
TeX (in math), but i guess the answer is not necessarily.
> I thought you weren't targeting plain TeX. Doing that is an entirely
> different situation than targeting LaTeX. texinfo.tex already does
> everything that is easy. Going beyond texinfo.tex leads into deep
> waters -- things that are unimplemented there are unimplemented for a
> reason.
For things relevant in @math, I'd like to have something that is in
plain TeX if possible. I don't care about TeX in other cases.
> Is there something similar for plain TeX?
>
> For unextended plain TeX with the CM fonts, see (for example),
> http://www.tug.org/utilities/plain/cseq.html,
There are only the TeX Primitive Control Sequences here.
> http://www.eijkhout.net/tbt,
This indeed seems to explain everything, including showing the font
tables.
> http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/teximpatient,
I use this book too, but it doesn't really explain clearly what is available
in math mode and what is not (or at least I don't really understand how
it is said).
> and of course The TeXbook.
>
> Also in many places it is said that fontenc T1 should be used, but I
> am not sure what to do in general for fonts and charsets. If I could
> have some directions, that would be nice...
>
> Sorry, but it's not that kind of thing that can be easily summed up.
> Maybe we should come up with a plan offline.
Ok.
--
Pat