Re: OT: Re: [Chicken-users] rails-like framework

[Brandon J. Van Every]

Shawn Rutledge wrote:
> Well I see the idea of calling a web framework an OS is not new:
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=166
>
> Somebody states the obvious, that DHTML + Javascript isn't very nice
> and wouldn't it be great if we could start over.  I've been thinking
> for a while that Scheme could be the universal language for such
> things - 
Anything could be.  Jeez look at C++.  This kind of problem is about 
creating critical mass.  It's more a marketing than a technical problem.

> A side project is how to get rid of the parentheses so that ordinary
> people can tolerate writing Scheme.  :-)  I think it's just a matter
> of writing a really awesome editor that understands a lot of common
> constructs and displays them appropriately.  It should look something
> like MathCAD but have graphical representations for every concept used
> in programming, not just math expressions.   You would edit the lists
> in memory directly, and the textual syntax is only the output when you
> save it to a file.
>   
Don't waste time on this.  The reason people don't use Scheme, is 
success hasn't bred success.  If you had a Scheme On Rails, or some 
other killer app that was really industrial strength and saved a lot of 
users a significant amount of work, people would stop bitching and 
moaning about parentheses.  You'd be better off doing less technical 
projects and more human organizational projects.  Get people together to 
create an important Scheme app.

Unfortunately, web stuff completely bores me and I have no time 
anyways.  I've made the overtures about game stuff several times here.  
Nobody has bitten.  I don't really expect them to.  The real problem is 
not parentheses.  It's critical mass and compelling apps.


Cheers,
Brandon Van Every