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Re: [Denemo-devel] C-1 adds tie


From: Richard Shann
Subject: Re: [Denemo-devel] C-1 adds tie
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 11:30:02 +0100

On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 10:11 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> On 05/11/2012 11:30 AM, Richard Shann wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-05-11 at 08:34 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> >> I notice if I change the prevailing duration using C-1,2,3.. It does 
> >> change the prevailing duration but it also adds a tie.
> > Control-n is a shortcut for add note of duration n slurring from
> > previous note. It means you can enter slurred notes as quickly as
> > unslurred notes, which greatly speeds up entering the rhythm of a piece.
> > I don't know if the pure Change Duration commands ever had this shortcut
> > in any profile, I guess it must have done if that is what you expected
> > it to do.
> > I am not sure what method you are using to enter notes - can you not use
> > the 0,1,2... keys without Control, followed by the note-name? Hmm, no, I
> > see that if you don't have a MIDI keyboard active that gives you two
> > notes.
> > If you are not using note names to enter notes, then you would position
> > the cursor and use the 0,1,2... key to enter the note (and, of course,
> > change the duration at the same time).
> > I guess we could load a different set of shortcuts if there is no MIDI
> > controller... otherwise we are back with profiles...
> 
> Would this be better to change this to be the 0,1,2,3 to change 
> prevailing duration of newly entered notes?

Better for which sort of user? The default key shortcuts work for a MIDI
controller and numeric keypad set up. The bottom line is that it has
been some years now since I entered music entirely from a pc-keyboard so
I can't really advise.
For use with a MIDI controller the current shortcuts mean that you can
set the prevailing duration with a number key and then enter the pitch
or pitches of that duration on the MIDI controller. The beauty of it is
that you are not limited to a single duration, you can enter as many as
you like and then play in the pitches. No further keypresses are needed.
The shortcuts Ctrl-0, Ctrl-1, ... mean that you can enter the slurs for
the same work (if you count Ctrl-0 as the same work as 0, which is not
quite the case).

I suspect the only solution to the different users is different shortcut
sets, but how to make it really easy for folks to choose I don't know.

>  This would reduce keypresses 
> if their is a change in rhythm with an interval skip that is larger than 
> a third.
> Maybe I will just do that on my own keyset.
Well, I think there should be a sensible way to enter/edit music for
those that don't have a MIDI controller attached.

>  I also have added the 
> navigation keys to the vim style that denemo use to have. That is the h 
> = left l = right j=down and k=up. ctrl-l is measure right ctrl j is 
> staff down etc.... This keeps my fingers in home row. I don't know if it 
> is my netbook or it is american keyboards but the ctrl-+ does not zoom 
> in unless I reset to ctrl-+.
I think that shortcut is wrong (there was a change a couple of years ago
which meant that many shorcuts had to be re-instated, giving new names).
On my machine the shortcut is Ctrl-Shft-equal, but probably you would
set just Ctrl-equal if you wanted it. Most people have a wheel mouse, so
Control with the wheel is much easier (?) - that is a built in. I would
simply drop the shortcut from the standard set. The more shortcuts there
are the more likely you are to cause something un-intended by
mis-typing, so I would prefer only to have the set of shortcuts that I
actually remember, which is just a few. There are quite a few which Nils
put in which just represent a hazard to me as I type, because I don't
remember them and on the rare occasions when I need the command I go and
fetch it from the menu. (One example of this that comes to mind is the
Staff properties command, which has a shortcut; since I almost always
use the same instrumental line ups I rarely need it).

Richard

> 
> Jeremiah
> 
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >>   This is annoying because I have to hit backspace and the add the note 
> >> again.
> >>
> >> Jeremiah
> >>
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