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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Ettus Research News


From: Matt Ettus
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Ettus Research News
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:01:00 -0800
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Don,

If anyone out there that is actually a part of this community feels the way you do, I'd love to hear it. But you just showed up and started making accusations. I've been contributing to GNU Radio for nine years now. I'll answer your questions for the sake of everyone else, though.

On 02/05/2010 01:20 PM, Don Fanning wrote:
Heh... You know I wondered the exact same thing a few weeks ago.  Matt
"informed" me that the .PCB files were never released.  I did find a
copy of the gEDA files used to make the schematic drawings for the USRP
from a older GNURadio mirror.  So much of what I'm seeing from Matt has
been a move away from Open Source and more towards "Closed Development".

This is nothing new. The .PCB files for the USRP1 and USRP2 were never released. This has been openly discussed on this mailing list in the past, and you are the first to express any real problem with it. Besides, the .PCB files are all in PADS format, and licenses to that program cost tens of thousands of dollars.

As for the .sch files, we have moved our source control, our hosting, and our website, and been moving to a new build system all at the same time. We've also been trying to clean up these (sometimes very old) schematics to make them work with the current gEDA tools.

Also, we've had a number of people build their own copies of our hardware, and when they don't work, try to get us to replace them by lying and saying they bought it from us.

So I hope you can excuse us for not rushing to get schematic files to someone who has never paid us anything more than insults.


I love how the USRP brochure has this blurb:

"Open Source Community
The entire USRP design is open source, including schematics,
firmware, drivers, and even the FPGA and daughterboard
designs. When combined with the open source GNU Radio
software, you get a completely open software radio system
enabling host-based signal processing on commodity platforms.
No software or licenses need to be purchased."

Not a word in that is, was, or will be false.


While to the letter of the law he did provide the above details, he
has/will not provide all the information/engineering drawings necessary
for people to roll their own boards or to import existing designs so
they can be modified to suit a person's/organization's project.  I can
understand why being this is how he makes a living, but at the same time
he shouldn't be promoting the design as open source... just open
architecture-ish...

On the other hand, the HPSDR is completely open.


You are fully welcome to use an HPSDR product. You'll find that in addition to a lot of work of their own, they use a bunch of firmware and FPGA code that we wrote.

Matt




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