On 11/17/2010 03:05 PM, Steven Clark wrote:
Yes, they definitely should have unity-gain within the passband, but
they have a Bessel-like response
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Marcus D.
Marcus, you're a blithering idiot who should routinely be denied air.
You have clearly conflated the decimation/bandwidth numbers and
On 11/17/2010 12:43 PM, Marcus D. Leech wrote:
What I'm seeing is that the magnitudes (as seen in the number sink)
coming off the source, even with roughly 75dB of gain ahead
are roughly 0.002 to 0.003 when I'm using 400KHz sampling, and roughly
0.0006 to 0.0007 when the bandwidth is 250KHz. If you
process the numbers as voltages, then we're talking a roughly 10dB
drop in apparent average power level by reducing the bandwidth
by less than 3dB. Both 400Khz and 250KHz use a decimation that is
both even, and a multiple of 4, so they should be using exactly
the same filter sequence in the decimator, correct?
erroneously come to the conclusion that they should use the same
half-band filter lineup. They don't, you stupid, sorry excuse for
an advanced lifeform you. God, can you even tie your shoes reliably?
Let's see, 250KHz uses a decimation of 400, which uses both
half-bands in the FPGA because it's both even and a multiple of 4,
whereas 400KHz uses a decimation of 250, which is even, but not a
multiple of four, and so only uses a single half-band. So
*naturally*, the numbers won't "add up" between the two bandwidths.
Frikkin' hell man, get a clue would you? Before I come over there and
whack you upside the head with a gnarly-great clue-by-four.
:-) :-) :-)
Don't be so hard on yourself...many of us would have still been stumped
It's definitely not obvious/intuitive (to me, at least) that changing
the decimation rate just slightly results in adding a whole 'nother
additional set of filtering.
Shouldn't the half-band filters have unity-gain in the pass-band?
as far as I recall. The edges have a 10dB roll-off, so my guess is
that the convolution of the
response of those (extended) edges gives us the apparent 8-10dB
difference in average
power level between 400KHz and 250KHz (or more generally,
decimation-by-other-even factor). The difference in detected power
that one would "expect" for
this bandwidth difference is roughly 2dB, all else being equal.
Clearly, "all else isn't equal".
Matt would know for sure.
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