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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Measure and record the phase at the receiver


From: mleech
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Measure and record the phase at the receiver
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 13:00:40 -0400
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Phase is a relative measurement.  Against what are you measuring the incoming phase?

You can measure a PSK signal instantaneous phase-shift by computing the arctran2 between adjacent critically-sampled samples. But there's no way to look at a signal and say "what is its absolute phase" without having something against which to measure said phase.

 

 

 

On 2017-03-23 12:53, Trejo Treviño wrote:

I am aware that a random phase shift will be introduced by the channel, but I need a method to measure the received phase (even if it does not exactly match the one from the transmitter) and store it, so I can then run some statistics on them 😊 This is why I think that the TX and RX do not need to be phase-synchronized.

 

Best,

 

Fernando Trejo
 

From: Discuss-gnuradio <address@hidden> on behalf of Marcus Müller <address@hidden>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 7:02:35 PM
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Measure and record the phase at the receiver
 

Hi Fernando!


On 03/22/2017 06:51 PM, Trejo Treviño, Fernando Alberto wrote:

Hi Marcus!

 

I am implementing a transmitter and a receiver model using two USRP N210s. Both are using GFSK modulation, and the data is transmitted at 2.4 GHz.

Cool :)

I would like to add a phase shift at the transmitter side via the use of a multiplier block with an exponential.

Ah, so a multiply_const with a constant of $e^{j\frac{2\pi}{f_\text{sample}\varphi}$, yeah.

Then, at the receiver I would like to receive this transmitted signal and check if the phase matches the one that was transmitted. This is why I need a measuring method.

 

Well, you can't see absolute phase without further ado – that would need your TX and RX to be phase-synchronized (you don't know the electrical length between your transmitter and receiver, it's absolutely random by itself).

Best regards,
Marcus

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