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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Non-deterministic behavior in GNU Radio


From: CEL
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Non-deterministic behavior in GNU Radio
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 16:24:12 +0000

Are you perchance using the modulator and demodulator blocks from the
"Deprecated" category? 

Best regards,
Marcus

On Tue, 2018-10-02 at 19:34 +0900, Reiichiro Nakano wrote:
> Interesting. Thanks for the response. I also have a bunch of message passing 
> going on. Do you think it could be dropped messages? I seem to remember 
> reading that PMT ports aren't back pressured like the streaming ports. What 
> happens when a queue fills up and the block can't catch up?
> 
> Anyway, what I would also like to know is a bit more explanation for the last 
> message in the thread I linked to in my first email. It seems like this was a 
> known problem with large data files and the absence of a throttle block?
> 
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 7:25 PM Sylvain Munaut <address@hidden> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > Unfortunately, there were no further replies to that thread but I did see 
> > > that my same question "pops up every once in a while". Anyway, my 
> > > specific problem is I'm trying to QPSK demodulate + RS decode a 2MS/s, 
> > > 1Mbps bit rate, 10GB IQ file. This works fine, but I'm getting a 
> > > different number of successfully decoded packets every run. I am using a 
> > > throttle block, and in fact tried to reduce the throttling rate to 200KHz 
> > > (samplingrate/10), but it still doesn't seem to work. As for how much CPU 
> > > my flowgraph is utilizing, it takes up around 80% of all 8 of my CPU 
> > > cores at the regular sampling rate, while taking around 30% of my cores 
> > > at samplingrate/10. Do you guys have any idea on what might be going on? 
> > > The thread I'm referencing is from 2013, but is it still relevant? Any 
> > > technical reasons for the non-deterministic behavior? I'm using 3.7.13.2.
> > 
> > Depends on your flow graph obviously, but in general, no.
> > 
> > Unless for the obviously "random" blocks (like noise generators and
> > such), AFAIK most other blocks should have a deterministic behavior
> > (at least when running on the same exact GR version). Usually
> > undeterministic behavior points to a bug in one of the blocks that
> > doesn't properly deal with the boundaries in the work() call.
> > 
> > cheers,
> > 
> >    Sylvain
> 
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