RE: [Interfacewm-discuss] Release 0.2.2 This Week

[Mondragon, Ian]

all,

  i found what was breaking the GNUstep app compatibility (such a dumb
mistake), but i don't know how perfect everything is going to be by tomorrow
(which is when i'd like to commit my changes & do the 0.2.2 release).  to
rehash/add to previous comments, here's what's going into this release:

- background images supported & loaded with themes
- titlebar/button height determined by *font size*, making things much
cleaner looking
- client response to property changes is more sane, most notably resulting
in a correctly updating titlebar
- GNUstep application support is less broken, but still not perfect

  PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS QUESTION:  would you rather have IWM continue to
load images into the resizebar (allowing for windowmaker-esque themes, but
increasing memory usage), or would you prefer a more NeXT-ish style, plain
window that could have the resize-corners' color determined in the defaults?

- ian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mondragon, Ian 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:26 PM
> To:   eric@linuxstep.org
> Cc:   interfacewm-development@lists.sourceforge.net;
> interfacewm-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject:      RE: [Interfacewm-discuss] Release 0.2.2 This Week
> 
> everyone - this is a perfect example of why i like esammer. <grin>
> 
> i couldn't agree with you more.  about all of this.  moving the backend
> graphics engine over to EVAS is a huge step, and it'll be quite an
> undertaking, but hopefully it won't be *too* painfull.  i've tried to
> wrangle IWM into having some sort of sane object structure...and while
> i've
> failed miserably in some respects, i think i've succeeded in others - and
> alot of that has to do with how IWM started out
> (aewm/alloywm/windowmaker**).  while libwraster is nice & tiny, i'm a bit
> irritated with it for several reasons, and EVAS is sooooo slick in many
> respects that it's really almost nausiating to think about not using it.
> 
> while there will be some slight reorganization for the EVAS move itself
> (i.e. aside from making more sense out of the entire codebase), i
> personally
> think it would be worth it.
> 
> - ian
> 
> ** - which reminds me: i just realized by saying this that, with the
> exception of alloywm, i never mentioned in the README file that the
> authors
> of these wm's should be given due credit for either snippets of code or
> pure
> inspiration.  eric, would you mind adding those to the readme real quick?
> i'm at work & don't have access to ssh/cvs...
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Eric Sammer [SMTP:eric@linuxstep.org]
> > Sent:       Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:08 PM
> > To: Mondragon, Ian
> > Cc: interfacewm-development@lists.sourceforge.net;
> > interfacewm-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject:    Re: [Interfacewm-discuss] Release 0.2.2 This Week
> > 
> > isn't it funny... i was the one pushing for switching to evas and now 
> > i'm sort of nervous about it. not that i think it's a bad idea, just 
> > that it is a huge step and should be well thought out and should only be
> 
> > done if it is what is 1. best for IWM 2. serves no other adjenda (which 
> > it didn't on my part and i don't think it does) 3. will not hinder IWM 
> > down the road (it shouldn't) and 4. will be well supported (which i 
> > think it will be).
> > 
> > it's a big decision (IMO) and should be subject to public scrutiny. that
> 
> > said, comments and trolling about enlightenment (which evas is NOT and 
> > even if it was, wouldn't matter) and other mo-mo-nonsense it about as 
> > counter-productive as trying to explain that "your way is neat, but 
> > isn't necessarily the ONLY way even if it's my way too" to some folks.
> > 
> > <insert me saying this isn't a rant here>, but unfounded prejuduces 
> > about a code base, its' founders, team leaders, license (yes, evas and 
> > all e projects are BSD and NOT GPL, IIRC), preferred (or presumed) 
> > target platform (it *IS* open source, after all), or the current 
> > favorite 
> > i-don't-like-it-because-it-isn't-blocky-motif-widgets-or-my-command-line
> 
> > argument. i love my command line as much as the next guy, but not 
> > everyone does and the song never heard is the song never written (and as
> 
> > most muscians and artists will tell you, most hate their own work).
> > 
> > "dear bourne-not-bash, c-not-tcsh, and debian-is-the-only-linux-distro: 
> > i'm scared of change so much i feel i must impose my command line 
> > commando life on everyone else and complain when they do it to me!!!
> > help!!"
> > 
> > (written from mozilla - aka one of those "non-command-line apps")
> > -- 
> > Eric Sammer
> > eric@linuxstep.org
> > http://www.linuxstep.org
> > 
> > 
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