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Re: Win32 Installer was: Re: Win32 build guide location?


From: Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Subject: Re: Win32 Installer was: Re: Win32 build guide location?
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 20:15:10 +0200

I know its SO lame to reply to my own message but I got an idea:

On 09.04.2003 16:16:20 "Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf" wrote:
>On 09.04.2003 15:46:31 Tom Koelman wrote:
>>"Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf" <address@hidden>
>writes:
>>
>>> On 09.04.2003 08:21:05 Tom Koelman wrote:
>>>>Willem Rein Oudshoorn <address@hidden> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> There should be somewhere a windows installer
>>>>
>>>>It can be downloaded from ftp://ftp.gnustep.org/pub/gnustep/windows/
>>>>and is called Install-GNUstep-Development-Environment-0.4.1.exe. It
>>>>contains make and base from the 1.6.0 freeze branch and libobjc from
>>>>the main branch, taken from CVS at the 24th of Februari 2003.
>>>
>>> Great stuff, worked like a charm here on a W2k box at work even 
without
>>> admin rights. This is the kind of stuff we need to get the average 
John
>Q
>>> Public Windows Developer to try GNUstep: Easy troublefree 
installation.
>>> This makes the first step to GNUstep a lot simpler.
>>
>>Thanks, and I agree.
>>
>>> But I wonder why this is so hidden. It should have a prominent place 
on
>>> the downloads page, especially since building GNUstep on Windows is 
not
>>> such an easy task as you can tell from the subsequent requests for a
>Win32
>>> build guide (I never tried to build it on my own for Win32 because the
>>> build process and requirements appeared to complicated for me).
>>
>>I still consider it experimental beacuse it has some known
>>issues. Take a look at the original announcement at
>>http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.gnustep.devel/1738 to see
>>them.
>
>O.k. then let's mark it as a prerelease. But it SHOULD be visible from 
the
>website.
>
>>Known problems:
>>- Sometimes sh.exe crashes while building. This is a known problem in
>>  MSYS that might go away by using a newer version of MSYS
>
>This should be fixed.
>
>>- No user visible error when building fails for some reason. You have to
>>  inspect the log files to see whether stuff went okay
>
>This should be fixed.
>
>>- No gui+back yet
>
>If this is clearly stated on the website and in a ReadMe.txt this should
>be o.k. for now. Since the Win32 GUI + BACK are in alpha state now they
>would not be very usable anyway. But by releasing the installer we could
>possibly reach some developers that are willing and able to put some
>amount of work into Win32 GUI + BACK.

How about offering the user a choice during the installation process like 
this:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
What to install?

[ ] GNUstep make (installs GNUstep make only)
[ ] GNUstep base (installs GNUstep make, the ObjC runtime and GNUstep 
base)
[ ] GNUstep full CAUTION: Is currently in alpha state! (installs GNUstep 
make, the ObjC runtime, GNUstep base, GNUstep back and GNUstep gui)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

So every user can adapt the installation to it's own needs and avoid the 
unstable parts.

>
>>- No automatic starting of gdomap and friends yet
>
>This should be fixed.
>
>>
>>Tom
>
>greetings, Lars
>
>>
>>
>>
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greetings, Lars




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