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Re: RE : Horizontal menus.


From: thisguyisi
Subject: Re: RE : Horizontal menus.
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:08:09 -0700
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Peron, Stéphane wrote:


Hi all !

When I use Gnustep with several application, I 'm lost with the different menu position of each application. I think a top menu would be very usefull for me. In other way, the classic step menus are very usefull when you are just with one application : you can put the menu anywhere you want and so, you can access very quicky with the mouse to the most usefull functions ...

Why do not let the user make its own choice at compilation according what it needs like backend ? Couldn't we have a compilation flag to say if we want a top menu or a classic menu ?

Sorry if the option has already been discussed ....

Regards,

Stéphane PERON


On 2003-05-15 23:36:08 +0200 Ian Jones <ian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Daniel Luederwald wrote:
>

<snip>

> Horizontal menus are inefficient on large screens and totaly impractical on multihead or xinerama type installations. I have seen this discussion played out many times here before. I personally would feel much happier if this desire and effort were put towards making what we already have stable and usable for people to develop applications on top of before people start changing things so that it starts to look and behave like their OSX machine. If you want OSX then use OSX, as far as I know the way GNUstep looks and feels was never inteded to emulate OSX and all its mistakes.

>

Will some 'bring menu to this screen' or 'bring menu near the mouse' function be sufficient? Or what about keyboard menu navigation? On the other hand, in well behaved application you have all frequently used functions reachable by shortcuts and other functionality in panels/inspectors/whatever. Moreover, there is still possibility to detach menus. I mean, there should be some compromise to satisfy more experienced users/expert environments.

Stefan



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This is an idea I was having as well, although rather than make a "locked-in" decision at compile, I was thinking the "floating" OPENSTEP/GNUstep-style menu should be modified to allow it to "dock" with the top of the screen and switch to an Apple-style menubar, which then your could then "tear-off" like any sub-menu, but perhaps with a modifier+tear. Ex. "Ctrl+LeftClickOnAppMenuTitle+DragDownFromTopOfScreen" kind of behaviour to "un-dock" it and return it to "floating" behavior, which I feel should be the default menu behaviour since GNUstep is an implementation of the OPENSTEP standard, as opposed to the Cocoa standard.

My thoughts and feelings.

Questions, Comments, Rotten Produce?

-thisguyisi






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