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Re: [GSWHackers] Re: OGo/GNUstep cooperation Re: Re[2]: Frameworks integ

From: Alex Perez
Subject: Re: [GSWHackers] Re: OGo/GNUstep cooperation Re: Re[2]: Frameworks integration
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:02:49 -0800 (PST)


> On Mar 2, 2004, at 2:22 PM, Manuel Guesdon wrote:
>>> | Manuel, I'm sorry to see that you have no intentions to do work on
>>> a | solution.
>> Probably a misunderstood. Remember, since before the begining of
>> gsweb, I was open to cooperation to avoid doing same things twice.
>> But, honestly, begining cooperation message with "Yet with OGo we now
>> do have a high quality and proven WebObjects clone  and gnustep-web is
>>  somewhat obsolete for practical purposes" is very strange. Cultural
>> difference ? :-(
> No, I don't think so. But I'm not really willing to discuss that
> anymore with you, since you are obviously not very keen on working out
> a solution if that may involve dropping own code even if this is based
> on objective reasons.
> Really, I want to talk about that with the other gnustep-web developers
> and users and of course with GNUstep in general (so far no one came up
> - so is gnustep-web just you and David?).
> The discussion with you is stuck and I don't think we get it running
> again. Feel free to make *productive* suggestions, and I consider.

Your adverserial position and attitude is clearly not helping matters
either. (Ironic that it would be me saying this, yes). Try to look at
things from Manuel's perspective...if I had approached you, and been told
that no, open sourcing the project isn't something we're interested in,
only to go off, start my own project as a result, have the person whose
company previously refused to open-source come along and call my product
"obsolete" and imply that it was inferior, I'd be far from happy myself.
So all I'm asking for, from the both of you, is that you set aside
personal animosities and egos and just work together. I know it's easy for
me to say that and very difficult to actually do often times, but I think
the payoff is worth it at this point.

Can't we all just get along? <sniff>

Alex Perez

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