Re: Starting GNUstep (Debian)

[Alex Perez]

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Riccardo wrote:

> This is ridiculous,
> 
> 
> On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 07:45 PM, Alex Perez wrote:
> 
> > G.I.N.A.D.E. G.I.N.A.D.E. G.I.N.A.D.E. G.I.N.A.D.E. G.I.N.A.D.E.
> > G N U S T E P   I S   N O T  A  D E S K T O P   E N V I R O N M E N T
> >
> > Seriously, it's not. There are several projects to *USE* GNUstep in a 
> > gnustep-centric development environment, but what you are doing is akin 
> > to calling 'kdelibs' a "Desktop Environment". You are comparing apples 
> > to oranges, and not even realizing it.
> 
> I'm beginning to be really SICK of this.

Tough.
> 
> 1. there are people on this mailing that behave like a mix of 7-year old 
> boy and a linux-zealot.

I'm far from either, but as long as we're name-calling, I can call you a 
m68k/netbsd/machlinux dead-os using overbearing GNUstep user who whines 
about how slow GNUstep is on his 33MHz, ancient, decrepit computer.


> 2. Gnustep is a desktop environment and a development environment. Since 
> there is a name confusion, I propsed months ago to call the whole thing

As of now, no, it is not. You should note, however, that I am most 
definately an advocate of turning GNUstep *INTO* a desktop environment.

There's no reason a truly official GNUstep Desktop Environment could not 
be borne into existence, with a different module in CVS, which simply 
built off of -base, -GUI, Gorm, ProjectCenter, GWorkspace, etc. I'd like 
to see it happen, and I'd like to participate in said project.
> 
> GNUSTEP
> 
> to be able to make a distinction.
This is laughable. What "distinction" are you trying to make? I don't see 
your point. Can you explain it more clearly and/or in a different fashion?

> But his is a question of naming. And if we can't get over this and just 
> stick around with this "GINADE" crap then I wonder if gnustep will ever 
> go somewhere in the future.

Not with the current entrenched, resistant-to-change core GNUstep 
developers, no.

But neither you or I have control over this aspect, unfortunately.

Cheers,
Alex Perez