Re: the gnustep wreckage. Part 1: windowmaker and user apps

[Nicolas Roard]

Le 19 nov. 04, à 18:27, Enrico Sersale a écrit :
> > > both the apps needs file operations.
> > > both the apps needs an Inspector.
> > > both the apps needs a Finder and will use its File Annotations and 
> > > Live
> > > Search Folders.
> > > both the apps use fswatcher, thumbnailer, etc...
> >
> > Yes, but why having multiple graphical applications ?
> > Wouldn't it be better to use frameworks for that ? and optionally some
> > servers (tools) if you really want for things like copy operations ?
>
> Not sure if I understand correctly or I'm missing something...
> But let we take Inspector as example: its window is *the place* where 
> the information is shown. And it must be only one place where this 
> happens, that is, a common window for all the applications. How can I 
> get this with a framework? I'd have an inspector for each app...

hm, ok, I understand more why you split out the Inspector now. I still 
disagree, but at least it make sense.
I find this separation quite odd, as "Operations" and "Inspector" 
aren't applications by themselves (why having a tile for them for 
example..) and I think there
were other possibilites (put operations/inspector in workspace and have 
the desktop requesting things using DO for example.. and/or have 
operations/inspector in framework for more clarity perhaps...). If 
"Desktop" and "Workspace" depends so much on common things, it's 
perhaps an indice that they belong in the same place:
I'm not sure why the "desktop" needs to be separated to the "workspace" 
anyway, as you can just flag the desktop window as omnipresent on all 
(virtual) desktops -- that's how nautilus works for example.

Of course I'm really not a friend of a "desktop" place, I think it's 
not a really good thing, but hey ;-) I know that lots of people 
disagree.

So, well, I'm not really convainced by this separation, but I'm not the 
one who code and I understand now why you did it that way. Thanks a lot 
for the explanation.

If you keep things that way though, it would probably be nice to quit 
Inspector.app and Operations.app when the desktop and the workspace are 
gone; and perhaps remove their tile possibly as well as their menu (but 
well, then it will also trigger some problems... yuck).

Another nice addition would be to have the inspector *resizible* -- 
particularly when used in "view content" mode.

thanks,

--
Nicolas Roard
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