Re: GUI without X11 / Artist Help

[Alex Perez]

Patrik Weiskircher wrote:
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> > > Also, apart from icons, is there a direction for the default GUI
> > > interface? I saw some of the theming that will be/is available through
> > > Camaelon -- has there been a clear consensus on keeping certain
> > > NEXTSTEP
> > > elements or moving to a more Mac look (ie: horizontal menubar versus
> > > vertical floating bar, scrollbar on left/right)? Any feedback on that
> > > would be helpful for redesiging the default GUI.
> >
> > This comes up from time to time on the list.  There are equally many
> > usability and aesthetic points that could be cited in favor of either
> > interface, Aqua or "Step".  Since Aqua is already being handled nicely
> > by Apple, it's probably best to make GNUstep's default the
> > alternative, instead of an imitation that will always pale compared to
> > the original.  (In some ways it actually feels good to move from a KDE
> > to a Windows machine, for example..)  Likewise for aping Gnome.  The
> > development and continuing popularity of window managers such as
> > WindowMaker and Afterstep suggests there is a user population that
> > likes the Step theme.
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> First, let me tell you that I'm a very new GNUStep user, but I really
> like it so far.
> The only thing which bothers me is its rather dated look.
> I'm just looking at the screenshot from Nicolas Roard with the new
> icons, and I
> have to admit that it looks pretty good.
> But I still don't like the look of some of the widgets.

<pedant> They're controls, not widgets </pedant>

> Are there any plans to change them?

Well, all of Nicolas' themes are not set in stone, and you can make your 
own theme which draws whatever kind of /control/ you want.

> Or, a better question, do you want them changed?

Some do, some don't. I think some of the default ones could definately 
be improved upon a bit without breaking the NeXT feel too much.

> I'm not sure what I should make of all the comments written on
> GNUStep.org.

Which specific page?

> It sounds more like you want to keep the look of the widgets as they
> are.

As I said, some do, some don't. Camaelon makes this all moot, however.

Cheers,
Alex Perez