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Re: Known MacOS programmer about WO/EOF

From: Dennis Leeuw
Subject: Re: Known MacOS programmer about WO/EOF
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 23:38:42 +0200
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David Ayers wrote:
Armando Di Cianno wrote:

Take for example gsweb.  Almost 100% undocumented, never been
"released" (come on -- it's at least 0.3, no?) and yet, if you try it
out, it's extremely cool.  So what on earth do we tell
end-user/developers?  "You know...try it out...and if you happen to
have developed for WO about 5 years ago, it's almost feasible to
use...otherwise...well...you'll figure it out....".  Pretty much, not

What we need is developers that already know how EOF/WebObjects and can spend time working on it. There are a few that are trying to get into it. But they often lack the experience and resources (reference implementations) to really get the correct implementation. I'm sad to say, that I simply don't always have the time or even the know-how to help them out, even though I try when I can. Another problem I see, is that some of the work to squeeze out more efficiency has made the code much harder to read, making it even harder for new folks to help out. I'm still hoping to find a way to remedy that, but to do that I'll need to find some time to do some real benchmarking myself to make sure we don't loose measurable performance.

On the otherhand releasing let's say a 0.1 version might create attention which then might attracked more developers. I don't think any developer expects a 0.1 version to be a version to base a production application upon.

Just 2 cents.


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