Re: web and databases

[comrade]

Hi Riccardo

> is there some documentation, examples about gsweb so a user can start 
> without having to dig up apple stuff? Or is there some apple 
> documentation available on web that applies well to the gnustep version?
 
The documentation is extremely limited and presupposes that the reader
has knowledge of WebObjects and EOF. I'd suggest checking the WebObjects
4.5 documentation on the web, either at Apple or elsewhere. Since we
don't have the gui tools ready for prime time, there is a lot of hard
discovery for a newbie to do :-(

> I am interested in:
> - accessing databases from web pages
> - webpages themselves

http://oldwiki.gnustep.org/index.php?pagename=GNUstepWeb
contains links to some sample code etc.

> - accessing the (same) database from a gnustep application

http://oldwiki.gnustep.org/index.php?pagename=GDL2
also. I have some test code I used to look at GDL2 functionality I can
share, but it's fairly ugly.

DBModeler is now at a state that you can use it to graphically create the
EOModel (a mapping between the relational structure in your database(s)
and your application's object model), from memory even helping to do
reverse-engineering of the tablespaces.

> especially the latter is interesting to me to provide both a "web" 
> version and a "real" application.

In my opinion both GDL2 and GSWeb work well in real environments - kudos
to the maintainers! - but are very badly let down by the state of the
documentation. 

We really need a lot of introductory topics in a Nicola-style web site,
or the wiki. We need overview documents that can give a developer some
idea of the landscape and capabilities. There was a little in the new
wiki that seems to have been lost in the spambot attacks, but we'd need
a lot more to make these useful frameworks really accessible to
developers.

Regards

Peter