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Re: really attracting developers

From: Riccardo
Subject: Re: really attracting developers
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:57:06 +0200


On Friday, August 25, 2006, at 01:57 PM, Chris Vetter wrote:

On 2006-08-25 12:05:48 +0200 Rogelio Serrano <address@hidden> wrote:
Whats keeping other developers from gnustep?

That's the crucial question, isn't it?

I think we had this thread before.. . and even before before....

incomplete ide?

Gorm, while probably not finished, is very stable and usable.

While Gorm is not an IDE.. it is very nice and works well. I have to add that ProjectCenter, while being SERIOUSLY incomplete in some parts, works well in what it delivers, so for many project it is just fine and it is reasonably stable. SO I don'tb uy this argument. We may make progress... but we are better off than other toolkits even.

incomplete libraries?

That's open to debate. If you compare it to Cocoa, yes, it's "incomplete." Question is how far the completeness is supposed to go (with respect to Cocoa).
I think the libraries are pretty complete. Try to code something (not to port some crap) and check if you can't do that because of a method not implemented. If it is in the OpenStep, then we should implement it, otherwise just start coding.

If we just implement the OpenStep specification (and ignore cocoa, which added nice thing and ruined others) we have enough power to write our web browser (yes, seriously, it is time and resources which lack, not frameworks), an office suite, an imaging application, a 3d application.... it was done on OpenStep and we even have stuff which was not in OS.

i don't buy the general applications unavailability argument. we are
talking about people who want to create apps under gnustep.

There aren't many usable GNUstep related applications. Not from a user's point of view. Most notably a web browser is needed.

I agree. Several desktop applications are missing or incomplete. There are bugs here and there. But it is not the gnustep core that is holding back applications.


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