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Re: The Wiki
Re: The Wiki
Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:18:37 -0400
On Sep 12, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Adrian Robert wrote:
On Sep 12, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Nikolaus Waxweiler wrote:
Looking at the wiki, and the way we've been working on it, it
there's no direction! We are all just doing whatever and hoping
Hehe. One of the things I wanted to address with my new main page
style was the "wiki == place for jotting down quick notes and then
forgetting about them" attitude. The goal is clear: Make the wiki
the new website. Some people don't like this, but I have yet to
receive a show-stopper-complaint.
else will agree with us.
I'm still waiting for an admin to include the stuff I have on
to extend the navigation bar to the left and the CSS file. Mh.
Maybe I have to port the simple but elegant look of gnustep.org.
- Secondly, I think we really need a standardized formatting for the
different pages. For example, the applications' pages need to
certain way and have certain information...
It would definitely be good if the wiki looked like gnustep.org, or
at least not like wikipedia.
Also, "wiki.gnustep.org" seems to redirect to
"mediawiki.gnustep.org" and put this in the browser address bar.
IMO it should be the other way around. "wiki" is clearer, shorter,
easier to type, easier to remember. The average gnustep www
visitor does not care what software we use to implement our wiki.
As far as *replacing* the web site with the wiki, I'm not sure
where this initiative came from; it just seemed to pop up here on
this list as if it were already decided. If the people who would
maintain it are enthusiastic I have no objection, but do feel that
navigation on wiki sites tends to be poorer than on dedicated /
custom sites. First, site layout (top and left navigation bars,
etc.) tends to be impoverished, and more wiki-oriented than domain-
oriented. Second, if the organization changes regularly it can be
difficult for repeat users to find things. I hope maintainers will
work to mitigate these shortcomings, otherwise the result can be an
unprofessional air of "this is a development project which hasn't
been around long enough to develop a real web site".
BTW, to be clear I don't mean for any of my comments to be taken as
disparaging of the efforts being made on the wiki right now. I was
speaking in general about my experiences on the web and NOT about the
gnustep wiki in particular. It looks like we're trying to do better,
and in any case the maintenance benefits could well trump these
Thanks a lot to those of you working on this.