Re: Objective-C 2.0 and other new features in Leopard

[Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf]

Am 09.11.2007 um 12:41 schrieb Markus Hitter:

> Am 09.11.2007 um 10:23 schrieb Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf:
>
> > "GNUstep - code differently" (maybe  even something ObjCish:  
> > [GNUstep code: @"differently"];)
>
> Ahem. Typically, a developer doesn't want to learn something  
> entirely new but stay with current skills:
>
> "GNUstep - everybodies Mac"

no, better not: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mac ;-)

> "GNUstep - Cocoa revisited"
>
> "GNUstep - Cocoa opened"

if so maybe better "GNUstep - free Cocoa" ("Cocoa free" could lead to  
a misunderstanding like "100% fat free". I'd also like "GNUstep -  
free as in Cocoa" because of the "free as in beer" phrase, but maybe  
that's to geeky). Then again, how many people know about Cocoa (I  
came across a lot of people - who call them selfes "Open Software  
Developers" that never heard of Cocoa. The "code differently" was  
mainly a pun at the "think different" campaign of Apple. Also the  
emphasis on "code" was important to me since "GNUstep is a cross- 
platform, object-oriented framework for desktop application  
development" which is to long for a phrase.

> "GNUstep - Mac free"
>
> "GNUstep -
>
> > - an easy installation and setup process for GNUstep is essential  
> > in my opinion. It must be easy for the curious "chance customer"  
> > to get an experience of GNUstep.
>
> Most *BSD and Linux distributions come with decent packaging  
> systems these days. ubuntu isn't that bad in this regard, but  
> currently comes with base-1.13, and gui-0.11. This is several  
> versions behind, IIRC. Etoile is missing entirely (just checked).  
> Ideally, there'd be gubuntu or etoile-ubuntu next to ubuntu,  
> kubuntu and edubuntu.

There already was a LiveCD of Étoilé which was based on Ubuntu (I did  
some bug testing with it) Sadly a final version got never released :-(

> Markus

regards,

        Lars

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