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next step forward (My understanding of the current situation, also an ov
next step forward (My understanding of the current situation, also an overview of previous discussion)
Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:05:13 +0800
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The discussion become difficult to track for people who just want to
have an overview, so I try to summarize what I understand now. I hope
people who follow my post be brief and ignore implementation details so
we can constantly focus on a framework. I also hope my English is not a
problem and thanks for tolerating this.
GNUStep has been 15 years old, based on the design more than twenty
years ago and still constantly being improved. The project in general
suffer from lack of effective communication, management, coordination
and, perhaps caused by all former lackness, lack of development effort
including community and high quality code.
A product, be it opensource or commercial, can roughly have 3 aspects of
Write source code, analysis user requirement to define and
prioritize features, product design, co-ordinate development
teams, finding/weighting/managing problems (bug tracking),
communication and definition of a common view of the product,
quality control, arrangement of development resources.
Find and defining target audiance, segment audiances and plan
strategy accordingly, find the right way to reach and message
the target audiance, co-ordinate public presentation of the
teams and products, manage distribution and delivery (e.g. let
which product reach user, which reach developer), find partners
Provide support faclity, organize support effort, define and
manage communication strategy and policy.
The 3 aspects are closely connected, for example understanding of user's
requirement is foundation of all 3 aspect, support have direct
relationship with product development and is depended by marketing. So
it is unlikely a loose communicating team with ideas in separate parts
of separate aspects can solve the GNUStep problem.
All of these require innovation, execution power (a.k.a. decide
something and it really can be done), belief that things can be done,
and the willingness to work with other people, focusing so much on
improvements to be tolerating. In general, it is damn hard to make a
So far the discussion touched every aspect and every sub-item as I
listed in these aspects, although most discussion is on the first item
of the first aspect: writing code. There are a few things people can
agree on /now/, e.g.
* the code in multiple parts need to be polished and an agreed
coding convention is needed. It is benificial if gnustep and
desktop environment based on it can agree on the same coding
* the website should be reworked. It should be more useful and
give positive impression to visitors, at minimum that things are
* the effort in mulitple related sub-projects should be
* effective measurement must be taken to get developers attention
on gnustep and gets them to use it
Although in certain bigger area we couldn't get agreed opinion yet.
* should gnustep target not only developers but also users, and
what developers / users should we target to.
* competibility with other DE.
* user interface
* reference platform / compatibility with MacOS
* people discuss with the frame work we said (3 aspects etc) in
mind so we can work on the whole pictuer instead of pieces of
* discussion on-topic, each topic should be discussed in their own
* work towards to have some kind of management commitee which
deliver a plan for gnustep roadmap and discuss the roadmap. Note
this is not a roadmap of product, but a roadmap in gnustep in
general, including bug tracking, website management framework
* set goals and organize people work on them. Keep managed,
communicated etc. Some kind of management commitee is needed for
I think it is easy to a) have an opinion on any topic but difficult to
b) make a really good product. I am trying to push from the current
situation a), to get result b).
To go from a) to b) I have this in my head:
1. Throw all the topics for discussion, one per thread, so people have
comment, show opinion and reason it;
2. Then people compile roadmaps. I would if I can get some time doing it and
the level of understanding that actually can make it;
3. Organize a commitee to run the roadmap;
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