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Re: ANN: One Step to GNUstep - pre-release version 0.9


From: David Chisnall
Subject: Re: ANN: One Step to GNUstep - pre-release version 0.9
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:09:41 +0100

If it's intended as a developer environment, then I would hope that it includes 
clang for the analyser at least, if not as the compiler.  Hopefully it's also 
using clang as the compiler, with the GNUstep runtime and the non-fragile ABI.

David

On 10 Jun 2011, at 10:03, Ivan Vučica wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm very interested in this. Does the built-in compiler support Objective-C 
> 2.0? That is, is it perhaps either gcc 4.6 or clang?
> 
> Does this environment contain Etoile?
> 
> Was it built using SuSE Studio? If so, could it be built as an installable 
> distribution in addition to being a virtual machine?
> 
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:38, Riccardo Mottola <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> 
> great work! we did it together, but the hard work was and is on your side, 
> especially since you already do all the packaging for SuSE already.
> 
> What was the reasoning behind this? Many developers want to access GNUstep 
> easily to set up a development environment, but apparently for some setting 
> up the environment is not successful, maybe because it is Windows or Mac.
> 
> Today virtualization is widespread and readily available, VirtualBox is free 
> and runs on many platforms.
> 
> Providing a ready setup is I think the quickest way to start working on 
> GNUstep... it is more usable than a LiveCD, the data is persistent and can be 
> used in production.
> 
> The other advantage is that since the virtual GNUstep is run on a host 
> computer, we do not need to provide every imaginable application: it may be 
> running alongside Mac, Windows or another Unix already setup with email. 
> browser... so the virtual GNUstep is best for testing and developing.
> 
> 
> We worked on the project for several months in our spare time: first 
> discussing how to ease the access for developers (at first we thought about a 
> new LiveCD) and then we did tests about configurations. I wanted to ship with 
> Debian or Fedora and did some tests, but eventually Richard's SuSE proved to 
> be easier to set up and package as a VM, leaner to configure. Also Richard 
> already maintains RPMs, so he only needs to complain and collaborate to fix 
> problems directly upstream.
> Many small bugs were discovered and fixed in the process, thank you Richard!
> 
> 
> We hope this VM setup will help GNUstep's adoption and usage! If it proves 
> stable, it may be directly advertised by gnustep.org itself.
> 
> Cheers,
>   Riccardo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/10/2011 03:08 AM, Richard Stonehouse wrote:
> 
> Acknowledgements
> ****************
> 
> Thanks to Riccardo Mottola for the original idea and for much advice
> and encouragement.
> 
> 
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