[Emacs-bug-tracker] bug#6866: closed (mule-cmds.el just _assumes_ all of Taiwan uses Big5 and not UTF-8)

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Big5      and     not UTF-8
has caused the GNU bug report #6866,
regarding mule-cmds.el just _assumes_ all of Taiwan uses Big5 and not UTF-8
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> Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:09:48 +0800
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> I demand an explanation.
> $ zgrep TW mule-cmds.el
>     ("zh_TW" . "Chinese-Big5")
> You guys just *assume* that all TW people still use Big5.
> One can do LC_ALL=zh_TW.UTF-8 until he is blue in the face, but still
>   current-language-environment is a variable defined in `mule-cmds.el'.
>   Its value is "Chinese-BIG5"
> emacs-version "24.0.50.1"
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> > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:39:10 +0800
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> > Well anyway, for our locale me and my friends all use zh_TW.UTF-8 and
> > stopped using zh_TW.big5 years ago. So at least it looks very dumb there
> > in mule-cmds.el that the zh_CN people can use UTF-8, but the HK and TW
> > are locked in the dark ages:
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> >     ("zh_HK" . "Chinese-Big5")
> >     ("zh_TW" . "Chinese-Big5")
> >     ("zh_CN.UTF-8" . "Chinese-GBK")
> >     ("zh_CN" . "Chinese-GB")
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> Are you sure you understand what this data base is used for in Emacs?
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> The function within mule-cmds.el which uses this data has this
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>     ;; locale-language-names specify both lang-env and coding.
>     ;; But, what specified in locale-preferred-coding-systems
>     ;; has higher priority.
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> Thus, if you specify UTF-8 as the preferred encoding (e.g., via
> LC_ALL), it overrules the Big5 default.
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> > The only big5 thing I apparently sometimes still use is
> > $ GET http://jidanni.org/comp/configuration/.emacs | grep -i b5
> >     (setq default-input-method 'chinese-py-punct-b5))));no 'utf' ones
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> You are confused: an input method can produce Big5 characters, but
> that won't prevent Emacs from encoding them in UTF-8 if that's your
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> I'm closing this bug.
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