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[debbugs-tracker] bug#27759: closed (NTP pool vendor zone)


From: GNU bug Tracking System
Subject: [debbugs-tracker] bug#27759: closed (NTP pool vendor zone)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 00:29:01 +0000

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--- Begin Message --- Subject: NTP pool vendor zone Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:42:56 -0400 User-agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23)
Currently our ntp-service uses the top-level NTP pool servers [0]:

(define %ntp-servers
  ;; Default set of NTP servers.
  '("0.pool.ntp.org"
    "1.pool.ntp.org"
    "2.pool.ntp.org"))

However, the NTP Pool project requests that operating system vendors
(that's us!) don't use these servers directly [1]:

------
You must get approval from the server operator before you hardcode any
IP addresses or hostnames. This is easy to get if your own organization
runs the NTP servers you are planning to use. In most other cases you
will not get it.

Do not use the standard pool.ntp.org names as a default configuration in
your system. The NTP Pool can offer services for you, but it must be
setup in advance (see below).
------

They recommend we apply for a vendor zone instead [2]. We would not have
to run our own NTP servers.

Does anyone know if GNU or the FSF have a vendor zone we could use?
Otherwise, we should apply for one and adjust our ntp-service.

[0]
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/services/networking.scm?id=ec5c24f9a8421172a0cf9133d512014b31815a76#n336

[1]
http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/vendors.html#basic-guidelines

[2]
http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/vendors.html#vendor-zone

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--- Begin Message --- Subject: Re: bug#27759: NTP pool vendor zone Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 20:28:18 -0400 User-agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23)
On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 02:36:58PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > I think we should document that I am the administrative contact for the
> > "zone". Any suggestions for where to document that?
> 
> At least as a comment in the definition of ‘%ntp-servers’?
> 
> Maybe we should also have a file in guix-maintenance.git listing
> specific responsibilities like this, membership to linux-distros or
> similar lists, privileged contact with upstream for specific packages,
> etc.  WDYT?

Yes, perhaps, although I'm worried it will fall out of sync and become
more frustrating than useful. For now I added a comment above
%ntp-servers.

> > From e8fd9d703dba134dab7f008951e68d11d3d2ca21 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: Leo Famulari <address@hidden>
> > Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 20:43:40 -0400
> > Subject: [PATCH] services: ntp: Use the NTP pool via the 'guix' zone.
> >
> > * gnu/services/networking.scm (%ntp-servers): Use *.guix.pool.ntp.org.
> 
> Yes!  :-)

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