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address@hidden: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.]

From: Richard Stallman
Subject: address@hidden: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.]
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 03:37:57 -0400

Marant is proposing to make a 21.4 release in the short term
based on 21.3.  I'm inclined to accept his offer, but does anyone
argue against it?

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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 16:30:46 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?b?Suly9G1l?= Marant <address@hidden>
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Cc: Rob Browning <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.
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Sorry for the late participation into the thread.

Selon Richard Stallman <address@hidden>:

>     Practically speaking, this would probably mean having a stable branch
>     of Emacs CVS or separate CVS repository (if there isn't either
>     already) to which we would add the appropriate fixes as they are
>     found.  Eventually this tree would be used to produce a new stable
>     Emacs point release (i.e. 21.3.1, etc.).
> At this point we are starting to aim for a new release
> from the development sources.  I don't know if we want to
> make another release now from the old stable sources.

As Rob said, we are proposing this once Emacs 21.4 is released.
So, we are definitely not asking anything to Emacs developers currently.

> If you were to do the whole work of making the new release from the
> stable sources, then I guess we could do it.  But I fear that would
> tend to need help form the main Emacs developers, and the result would
> be to interfere with making the new development release.

Richard, it does not change for what is happening with the Debian
package. And you will notice that despite a growing number of
patches in the Debian package, we are rarely asking emacs developers
for help. So, we are definitely able to do a decent job with
a good cohabitation with emacs people. Sometimes, patches applied
to the stable branch are applied to the mainline as well.

As an example of why we need this: I need to use another GNU system
at work (namely Suse) and I use GNU Emacs but I can't benefit
from bugfixes and patches from the Debian package. And I don't have
time to grab the source, apply patches and so on. If patches were
directly applied to the stable branch, every other system would
benefit from them. And there are many people like me.

Since Emacs stable releases are quite rare, it would be a plus for
our users see their bug fixed sooner. This is why I reiterate
our proposal (again, we have time to think about it).

Would you mind that we ask emacs developers for what they think
about it?

> The main obstacle to a new release from the development sources is
> finding people to check the manual for errors.  Can you help with
> that?

We'll try to.


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Jérôme Marant
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