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RE: follow-link in grep buffer
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Drew Adams |
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RE: follow-link in grep buffer |
Date: |
Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:53:11 -0800 |
> Terrible. If I tell that to any new Emacs users, they'll
> shake their heads and leave Emacs alone.
> And when you tell them about mouse-1 plus mouse-3 and all the rest?
The difference is that you don't need to tell Emacs novices about
mouse-1+mouse-3 (which I never ever use in Emacs, BTW, I always use
drag-mouse-1 instead). OTOH you do have to explain to them why
they can't just "click to place point" and how to work around it.
Well, I don't want to belabor this point, but mouse-1+mouse-3 behavior does
need introducing, _if_ someone is to use it - people are not likely to
_discover_ that behavior. Double-click behavior is something that many
people will discover without explanation, IMO. Others may disagree...
BTW, I'm a bit surprised that you always drag to select. Do you also not use
two mouse-3 clicks to delete the region? That's another handy operation
(though not basic or essential) that requires some introduction. Unlike
mouse-1+mouse-3, people _are_ likely to discover that on their own, but it
might take them a while to understand just what they've done.
Using the mouse to follow a link and set point are basic operations that
should not require any how-to explanation. Today, we do need to "tell"
novices about mouse-2 and links. Tomorrow, we may unfortunately need to
"tell" them about other ways to use the mouse to do simple things. We should
try to come up with a scheme that leaves the three most basic mouse
operations - setting point, defining the region, and following links -
without need of an explanation. It doesn't sound like we're quite there yet.
Your point is valid, of course, that novices might not need mouse-1+mouse-3.
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, (continued)
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Richard Stallman, 2005/02/26
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Stefan Monnier, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, David Kastrup, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Stefan Monnier, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Lennart Borgman, 2005/02/25
- RE: follow-link in grep buffer, Drew Adams, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, David Kastrup, 2005/02/25
- RE: follow-link in grep buffer, Drew Adams, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Stefan Monnier, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, David Kastrup, 2005/02/25
- RE: follow-link in grep buffer,
Drew Adams <=
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, David Kastrup, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Robert J. Chassell, 2005/02/25
- RE: follow-link in grep buffer, Drew Adams, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, David Kastrup, 2005/02/25
- RE: follow-link in grep buffer, Drew Adams, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Kim F. Storm, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Stefan Monnier, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, David Kastrup, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Stefan Monnier, 2005/02/25
- Re: follow-link in grep buffer, Kim F. Storm, 2005/02/26