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Re: Possible change to startup.el

From: Juri Linkov
Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:32:19 +0300
User-agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux)

> Help->Emacs Tutorial _is_ such a menu item.  Type "C-h k" followed by
> selecting that menu item, and you will see this in the *Help* buffer:
>     <menu-bar> <help-menu> <emacs-tutorial> runs the command 
> help-with-tutorial
>        which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `help-fns'.
>     It is bound to C-h t, <help> t, <menu-bar> <help-menu> <emacs-tutorial>.
>     (help-with-tutorial &optional ARG)
>     Select the Emacs learn-by-doing tutorial.
>     If there is a tutorial version written in the language
>     of the selected language environment, that version is used.
>     If there's no tutorial in that language, `TUTORIAL' is selected.
>     With ARG, you are asked to choose which language.
> So I don't understand why Juri says that this is misleading.  Juri,
> can you explain?

I was mislead by the "Emacs Tutorial (choose language)..." menu item.
I thought that "Emacs Tutorial" always selects the English tutorial while
"Emacs Tutorial (choose language)..." selects a tutorial in any language.

The fact that English menu item "Emacs Tutorial" can select a non-English
tutorial is misleading too.  Ideally the menu item "Emacs Tutorial"
should be translated into the same language whose tutorial it selects.
This requires support for multi-language menus.

Juri Linkov

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