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theming (was: Sorting of directories in dired)
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John S. Yates, Jr. |
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theming (was: Sorting of directories in dired) |
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Thu, 07 Jul 2005 06:53:22 -0400 |
On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 01:28:22 -0700, Edward O'Connor wrote:
>Here's one vote for leaving the default as it is. I love how Emacs
>is a consistent environment across the various operating systems it
>runs on, and would much prefer it for the default Dired behavior to
>continue to be the same across all supported systems.
With all of RMS's push to get the current, little-used theme code
debugged and integrated I keep feeling that it simply will not
address what I intuitively feel a theme concept should provide.
Edward's comment quoted above provides a perfect case in point.
Historically, the Emacs community has provided default behavior
that catered to its entrenched userbase. The answer to nearly
any suggestion that such behavior might be awkward / unfamiliar /
jarring to new users, especially those on platforms held in low
regard by the entrenched userbase, is that Emacs is customizable.
Essentially a "Let them eat cake" attitude. The learning curve
and shear volume of customization needed to make Emacs feel
comfortable to a new Windows user (who may very well some day
in the future run Emacs on *nix, but today has no interest in
investing effort in such a potentiality) is daunting.
My notion of a theme is not a named collection of configuration
settings. Rather it is an expression of high-level intent:
- as much as possible behave like Window / MacOS / *nix
- underline clickable links
- give me single frame behavior vs something like Drew's OneOnOne
This is not unprecedented. There already seems to be a bit of
this kind of mindset in the attempt to provide light-on-dark and
dark-on-light default faces.
/john
- Sorting of directories in dired, Lennart Borgman, 2005/07/06
- Re: Sorting of directories in dired, Juanma Barranquero, 2005/07/06
- Re: theming (was: Sorting of directories in dired), David Reitter, 2005/07/07
- Re: theming, David Kastrup, 2005/07/08
- Re: theming, David Reitter, 2005/07/08
- Re: theming, Stefan Monnier, 2005/07/08
- Re: theming, Richard M. Stallman, 2005/07/08
- Re: theming (was: Sorting of directories in dired), Richard M. Stallman, 2005/07/10
- Re: theming, Lennart Borgman, 2005/07/07
- Re: theming, Juanma Barranquero, 2005/07/07