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Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS)
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David Kastrup |
Subject: |
Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS) |
Date: |
Tue, 15 May 2007 00:27:45 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.51 (gnu/linux) |
Dan Nicolaescu <address@hidden> writes:
> David Kastrup <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > Dan Nicolaescu <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > > people were able to test the multi-tty functionality, after it
> > > they are not.
Reality check. I tested it. It was not up to par. You seem to say
that one should only be allowed to test it, not change it.
> > > Nobody claimed the code was bug free, but it did do what was
> > > advertised to do.
> >
> > Reality check. It didn't. It only worked when one started the
> > main Emacs from a tty with termcap/terminfo settings identical
> > to those where one later started emacsclient.
>
> Can you please provide a proper bug report of what you are trying to
> do and how?
Oh for heavens sake, don't you read this list?
Start something like
TERM="" TERMCAP="" COLORTERM="" COLUMNS="" ROWS="" emacs -Q
(the point being to remove terminal-related variables)
and then, from a tty, start
emacsclient -t
This does not work.
> > That was the problem I hit first and reported. And part of the
> > reason is that getenv does not, as opposed to advertised, fetch
> > a terminal- or frame-specific environment variable.
> >
> > So I changed it to do that in order to match its DOC string, and
> > it turns out that the code for _multitty_ (what this branch is
> > supposed to be about in the first place) does not yet fetch the
> > right kind of variables.
>
> Do you feel that it is reasonable to make changes to the CVS that
> you don't create ChangeLogs for,
There _is_ no ChangeLog file for multi-tty yet, and I _did_ create a
CVS log entry.
> don't even post something on the list letting people know that
> you've made changes,
I _did_ post the patch to the list.
> and then complain that things don't work and can't even discover
> that your own changes caused the breakage?
There was breakage _before_. And I asked several times whether the
people who could not follow my report had used multi-tty HEAD from
Emacs CVS.
> > So you propose to tackle the problem by destroying multi-tty
> > capability, making everything rely on a single environment for
> > all terminals.
>
> I have proposed no such things. I only asked for a change to be
> reverted because it made things strictly worse than before.
Fine, this is for now the end of my involvement with the multi-tty
branch. I am reverting the change and deleting my checked-out copy.
There is no sense bothering with code that people don't want to see
any work done on.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), (continued)
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Dan Nicolaescu, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), David Kastrup, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), David Kastrup, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Dan Nicolaescu, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Jason Rumney, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Dan Nicolaescu, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), David Kastrup, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Richard Stallman, 2007/05/15
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), David Kastrup, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Dan Nicolaescu, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS),
David Kastrup <=
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), David Kastrup, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design, Nick Roberts, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design, David Kastrup, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Dan Nicolaescu, 2007/05/15
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Jason Rumney, 2007/05/15
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Karoly Lorentey, 2007/05/15
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Jason Rumney, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), Miles Bader, 2007/05/14
- Re: Multi-tty design (Re: Reordering etc/NEWS), joakim, 2007/05/14