RE: [21.1.90]: point put at point-min in *compilation*

[Marshall, Simon]

>     But scrolling still has to occur for you to be able to see if
there's
>     anything to read.
> 
> That is not true.  Starting a new compilation erases the buffer.
> So you will certainly see that the output has started.  Then you
> can read it at your own pace.

Yes, you can read it by scrolling through it - that was my point above.
With a default of nil you still _always_ have to scroll yourself,
whereas with a default of t you _only_ have to scroll yourself if (a)
you see there is something worth reading and (b) the compilation hasn't
stopped anyway because that something was a fatal error.  And with t you
get the visual cue of progress status.

> If it scrolls automatically I often can't even SEE if there is
> something I want to look at.  And supposing I do see, by the time
> I can get my hands on the keyboard to type anything, a lot more
> output will usually have come out.

Iff you think you might have missed something, then you can scroll back.
But how is that different from scrolling forward, which you _always_
have to do with a default of nil?

If you care about compilation output and/or progress, a default of nil
means that you always have to do something (ie scroll), whereas with a
default of t you only occasionally have to do something.

> My decision is not to change the default to t.

Ok.  Though it is worth pointing out that the other few who have
expressed a preference have said that the default would be better as t.
It is also worth pointing out that the other (non-Emacs) build tool I
use also behaves that way.
Emacs 21 and 22.1 also behave that way (apart from the first invocation)
and I bet nobody complained about that.  (As I understand it, Drew was
complaining about M-x grep, which I agree with, and its default would be
better as nil.)

>     Has someone tried to use my new
compilation-auto-jump-to-first-error?
>     It stops the scrolling as soon as the first error is spotted.
> 
> I have not tried it, but it sounds like a good idea.
> Is it installed already?  

I would try it if it was in Emacs 22.


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