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Re: Release plans
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Thien-Thi Nguyen |
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Re: Release plans |
Date: |
Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:03:02 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) |
() Thomas Lord <address@hidden>
() Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:23:20 -0700
it would be very nice, performance-wise and semantics-wise, to
be able to address the database from lisp directly rather than
going through the serialization bottleneck to a sub-process.
I think you've got it backwards; in any system involving Emacs (of
the current design), the serialization bottleneck is Emacs `eval'.
In this light, a subprocess is actually the most clean and (more
importantly) upwardly compatible way to scale performance.
If we wish to augment this extremely clean model:
(1a) emacs
(1b) emacs------------emacs ; fork
(1c) emacs--[serial]--subproc ; exec
for performance purposes, then i suggest we concentrate on the
data structure for sharing info between emacs and the subproc,
rather than the control structure (i.e., dynamic loader). More
precisely, i would like to see something like:
(2a) emacs
(2b) emacs--[sharable-buffer] ; "sweep-porch"
(2c) emacs---[shared-buffer]---emacs ; "invite-kibitz" :-D
The second emacs (from 2c) can mux traditional children (1b, 1c)
as it sees fit, of course.
In Unix, the data structure for sharing info is a shared buffer,
but the protocol for manipulating that buffer is very limited.
Lots of fun ensued, anyway. Emacs deserves no less.
thi
- Re: Release plans, (continued)
- Re: Release plans, Robert J. Chassell, 2008/08/28
- Re: Release plans, Richard M. Stallman, 2008/08/26
- Re: Release plans, Thomas Lord, 2008/08/26
- Re: Release plans, Richard M. Stallman, 2008/08/27
- Re: Release plans, Paul R, 2008/08/27
- Re: Release plans, Richard M. Stallman, 2008/08/28
- Re: Release plans, Thomas Lord, 2008/08/29
- Re: Release plans, Bruce Stephens, 2008/08/29
- Re: Release plans, Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2008/08/29
- Re: Release plans, Thomas Lord, 2008/08/29
- Re: Release plans,
Thien-Thi Nguyen <=
- Re: Release plans, Stefan Monnier, 2008/08/29
- Re: Release plans, Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2008/08/29
- Re: Release plans, Thomas Lord, 2008/08/29
- Re: Release plans, Thomas Lord, 2008/08/29
- Re: Release plans, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2008/08/30
- Re: Release plans, Thomas Lord, 2008/08/30
- Re: Release plans, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2008/08/31
- Re: Release plans, Thomas Lord, 2008/08/29
- Re: Release plans, Thien-Thi Nguyen, 2008/08/31
- Re: Release plans, Thomas Lord, 2008/08/29