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Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32?

From: Lennart Borgman (gmail)
Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32?
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:00:22 +0200
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Taylor Venable wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:08:32 +0200
> "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Taylor Venable wrote:
>>> Maybe, assuming you have a Trash.  But where is it?  It could be the
>>> one that Nautilus uses, or the one that Konqueror uses.  If you
>>> don't use GNOME or KDE you probably don't have a Trash.  Then what
>>> is the point of moving things there?
>> Is this really true?
>> Someone said that trash cans are something that belongs to the shell.
>> On w32 that is fortunately true only in a very limited sense. You can
>> do file deletions without using the trash can and you must use what I
>> believe MS call "shell api".
>> However it comes with the system! That is the important point. And of
>> course such a component should follow with the system so that
>> different shell developers s does not invent the wheel again. (Doing
>> that may create a lot of work for other people.)
>> Why not try to take that up with the GNU/Linux developers?
> The simple answer is because the GNU/Linux (or rather, Unix in general)
> architecture does not operate like Windows does with respect to this
> tight level of integration.  Even getting the GNOME and KDE guys to use
> the same place would not solve the problem

They should come together and donate their common solution for trash can
handling as something that comes with the system.

> because a user always has
> the freedom to use another environment (or write their own) which might
> not conform.  You cannot second-guess that such high-level features
> will be available

Is not that a job for the interface? You ask the interface if it is
available. It it is not you do not use it ...

> Who should decide where your files go when they die?

The writer of the trash can handling (that is called by the trash can
interface do handle the trash can).

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