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Re: bug in server-start
From: |
Dan Nicolaescu |
Subject: |
Re: bug in server-start |
Date: |
Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:28:26 -0800 (PST) |
"Juanma Barranquero" <address@hidden> writes:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 19:51, Dan Nicolaescu <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > Again, can you please point out where exactly I said that the message
> > you cited was not confusing???
>
> You didn't exactly said that, of course.
Then PLEASE STOP making statements about what I said when that is
clearly not true.
For the record, I do think that this is unhelpful:
(display-warning 'server (format "Server %S is already running" server-name))
Given that the 23.1 behavior is different than what happened before,
this will not help users easily find out what is wrong.
> You said that the message in
> server.el was confusing, and that you supported adding the server name
> to the error message when the user passed it explicitly. I assumed
> that you meant that you don't think the message is confusing when the
> user has passed the server name. Apparently what you mean is that when
> the user passes the server name, the error message will sometimes be
> confusing, but you don't care because the user gets what he asked for.
>
> > You haven't yet given any explanation why not.
>
> Yes, I've done it: I've said that I think error messages should be
> informative, and that knowing the server name is useful IMHO. Perhaps
> you don't use multiple servers, or if you do, you don't use the
> default "server".
PLEASE STOP making statements here about what I do or do not, when you
have no information to support your suppositions. Thank you.
> AFAICS, your explanation of why you oppose this is "Most users won't
> know, nor care about that", which is a generalization, too. You
> don't know what most users know or care, any more than I do.
There's a strong hint in the fact that server-name is a defvar with no
docstring (not a defcustom).
I designed --daemon to be very easy to use, I want the error messages to
be easy to understand/debug too.
- Re: bug in server-start, (continued)
- Re: bug in server-start, Dan Nicolaescu, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Dan Nicolaescu, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Dan Nicolaescu, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Dan Nicolaescu, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Dan Nicolaescu, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start,
Dan Nicolaescu <=
- Re: bug in server-start, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Dan Nicolaescu, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Dan Nicolaescu, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Chong Yidong, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Juanma Barranquero, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Stefan Monnier, 2008/12/16
- Re: bug in server-start, Stefan Monnier, 2008/12/15
- Re: bug in server-start, Dan Nicolaescu, 2008/12/16